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Cactus Flower, thanks for the article.

I've seen programs that show how the Palestinians have to live under the Israeli restraints, the conditions are deplorable.
Israel would be better off with a thriving Palestine state, why can't they/we see that?

I thought Obama might handle Israel differently than prior presidents. He didn't coddle Netanyahu, some think he gave him the cold shoulder.

Unfortunately, Obama has disappointed many, here & worldwide.
His mantra, "Yes we can", often leads us to ask "When"?

Now, Obama is in full campaign mode, his numbers are weak, even among African Americans. From 83% a few months ago to 58%. His numbers are dropping with all groups, Jews & Hispanics are probably among his biggest losses.

Obama is looking over his shoulder, this makes it difficult to lead...




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Re: Cactus Flower
By: Cactus Flower
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Fri, 23 Sep 11 6:04 AM
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Hi clo,

I guess I am not really so interested in the US political jockeying in this matter. If Jewish-American people want to vote to suppress the Palestinian people, I'm content not to share my politics with them, although I suspect more than a few see the world the same way that I do. To illustrate the point more extremely, I'd not care if I offended the Teuto-American voting block if it might have avoided the Holocaust. Sometimes, it isn't about America. There's something more important in play: let's call it life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If that means Obama loses but the Palestinians are granted their freedom, so be it. I think more good will come from the emergence of a Palestinian state than from almost any other political change in the geography of the world. The boil of world politics would be lanced, at last.

And after all, if a majority of the American people want Rick Perry for President, I guess this country will deserve the consequences of its decision.

Peggy Noonan has a view of US politics which I don't share and care little about. It's all cosmetic. It's all structured around US self-regard and self-interest.

I'm coming from a different place altogether. I don't favour US interests over those of the Palestinian people. I want to see a resolution in Israel. I want the Palestinian people to have a chance to be free at last. But I don't think Obama is brave enough to seize the moment. He'd rather punt, which is excatly what he did in that speech.

Here's an article which I recommend you to read. It will be a bit of a shock. Unfortunately, this fellow is very often right. He's an Englishman who has lived in the Lebanon forever and a day and knows that world better than most and how they see we people of the West. It isn't pretty, but, as Obama might say, we need to feel what it is like to stand in their shoes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-the-middle-east-will-never-be-the-same-again-2357514.html


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