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Re: S&P Does Not Believe The Bush Tax Cuts Will Get Lifted In 2012 

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I already beat you to the punch on that piece of propaganda crap, dearie - read my post #40696 - that statement was just an acknowledgement of fact, not a reason for the downgrade.

Again, here is what S&P said ... "We view the act’s measures as a step toward fiscal consolidation. However, this is within the framework of a legislative mechanism that leaves open the details of what is finally agreed to until the end of 2011, and Congress and the Administration could modify any agreement in the future. Even assuming that at least $2.1 trillion of the spending reductions the act envisages are implemented, we maintain our view that the U.S. net general government debt burden (all levels of government combined, excluding liquid financial assets) will likely continue to grow."

"Standard & Poor’s takes no position on the mix of spending and revenue measures that Congress and the Administration might conclude is appropriate for putting the U.S.’s finances on a sustainable footing."

In other words, cluless clo, it's the continued net spending that caused the downgrade. If the government raises taxes, it will further depress the economy and the government will not receive near what they simplemindedly believe will come in (on paper, anyway) from raising taxes. So, the only recourse is to rein in spending, big time. clo, what do you do when you're running up a deficit in your personal bank account and your banker says you have to pay off your overdraft, eh? You quit spending so damn much money ... it's as simple as that and everybody in America (and at S&P) knows that straightforward fact, except for the dumbasses in the Democrat Party.

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S&P Does Not Believe The Bush Tax Cuts Will Get Lifted In 2012
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Mon, 08 Aug 11 9:12 PM
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S&P Does Not Believe The Bush Tax Cuts Will Get Lifted In 2012

Joe Weisenthal|Aug. 5, 2011, 9:42 PM|3,796|44

A very interesting line in S&P's full report (.pdf) wherein it downgraded the sovereign debt of the US from AAA to AA+.

Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place.

We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise
revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.

First, it's interesting (and correct) that that the GOP is rigidly anti-revenue, and would resist any measure that would raise revenue. 


That being said, as S&P itself notes, the tax cuts are due to expire, meaning no measure is needed to get rid of them. They'll just go away.

Still, you have to wonder if Obama will end up agreeing to some kind of deal whereby the tax cuts stay in exchange for, say, a payroll tax cut or an unemployment insurance extension. 


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sp-does-not-believe-the-bush-tax-cuts-will-get-lifted-in-2012-2011-8#ixzz1USZA7ENw


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