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Why Is Canadian Housing and Banking Stronger than the U.S.? by: Mark J. Perry May 10, 2009

From Nick Rowe, via Marginal Revolution, comes this list of why Canada's banks are special, or at least different enough from US banks to explain the differences above in the recent housing market and banking problems:

Canada has never had restrictions on interstate banking, so Canadian banks spread their assets and liabilities across Canada, and it doesn’t matter if a local housing market goes bust. (This was also a major difference during the Great Depression when about 10,000 banks failed in the U.S. vs. almost no bank failures in Canada.)

1. Canada never had Glass-Steagall restrictions separating commercial banking from investment banking, and the investment banks in Canada joined the retail banks some years ago.

2. Canada doesn't have mortgage interest deductibility for income taxes. So paying down your mortgage in

3. Canada is a tax-free investment, and most people want to pay down their mortgages.

4. Except in Alberta, mortgages in Canada are fully recourse. You can’t just walk away from a negative equity home and hand the keys to the bank; the bank will come after you for the difference.

5. If a Canadian investor wishes to take some risk, the New York-based banks may be the most efficient means of doing that (added by Tyler Cowen).

http://seekingalpha.com/article/136687-why-is-canadian-housing-and-banking-stronger-than-the-u-s




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Re: House GOP delays vote on debt-ceiling plan
By: fizzy
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Fri, 29 Jul 11 5:50 PM
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De, re "And maybe there will be a pseudo-default, in which case Obama will cite the 14th Amendment as justification to print money and pay bills, and thereby create a Constitutional crisis.

As with everything these days, it will be interesting."

I am wondering what you and others think the dollar and market outcomes will be?

I should think that a failure to extend and pretend will hit the markets, and metals, hard but the dollar itself -- which has been FALLING during this period of uncertainty -- would actually strengthen considerably..at least for a while?

I would expect the same result for a credit downgrade.

We have to be really close now to an end to the dollar's reign as a reserve currency. I have noticed the Canadians are looking at our incompetence with amusement and growing disgust. The may have a bit of their own comeuppance to deal with when their housing markets finally pop but their government and banking system do seem much better managed. I keep thinking of how during the Great Depression America had thousands of banks go bankrupt but Canada had not one. Indeed, I have heard (but not verified, so it could be nonsense) that Canada has never had a bank failure. That's a little hard for me to believe ... so I guess I need to

Oh, here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_Canada

According to the Department of Finance, two small regional banks failed in the mid-1980s, the only such failures since 1923, which is the year Home Bank failed. There were no bank failures during the Great Depression compared to 9000+ in the US.

I don't know how Canada is going to deal with its real estate bubble but I seriously doubt it is going to be major problem for its banking integrity... that would be too good a record, too obvious, to mess up.


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