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That's an intriguing epiphany, fizzy.

I'm trying not to cough up a lung today, so I'll keep this short.

Your observation that those who hold dollars are supporting an evil "slave" system is completely compatible with my own decision to "drop out" by no longer saving. That is, I am now spending all of the additional money I earn each month instead of putting the money into dollar based saving vehicles as I've done all my life. The money isn't being blown, but instead of racking up electronic digits and accruing minimal interest, I'm filling up shelf space and accruing nothing except price appreciation (which I don't value since it is dollar denominated.) Oddly enough, the price appreciation I'm getting is far more than the interest the "savers" are gaining, but that's a different topic.

It's good to know that something I'm doing purely for my own benefit also puts me squarely on the moral high ground! And yet I expect resentment from others, if they ever find out what I've done.

I guess you'll be making a similar move now. Land, art and PM. Those are your best bets if you need to move 7+ figures out of FRNs. You'll need to be very careful with whatever land (it can be confiscated) and art (its value may not endure) purchases you make, and be careful of the IRS. They may not like what you're doing. Everything feels dangerous these days. Let us know how it goes.




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a light bulb just went on
By: fizzy
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Sun, 12 Jun 11 4:08 AM
Msg. 33410 of 45644

I was reading this when something I've read a hundred times finally registered... Read the whole passage and see if you can identify the light bulb:

The Total Freedom concept is one that I have been exploring in the Sons of Liberty Academy. It seems that everyone is striving to become Financially Free. I can tell you from experience that is a fools errand. If you are Financially Free,you are not Totally Free. To be Totally Free you need to be not only Financially Free but also Intellectually,Politically,Physically,Emotionally and even Spiritually Free. If you are not free in all of these areas,you are still a slave to the paradigm. The Elite that control our paradigm are attacking you on all of these fronts by convincing you that what you are doing is good. Let me give you a few examples…

Financially Not Free- Debt is good they tell you. Debt is slavery in reality. Our whole system is corrupt from the very beginning,because in our sick system,the very money we work for and save is debt. So even if you have no mortgage or student debt and even if you have a fat bank account of FRN’s,you are still in debt. Dollars are debt to us and an asset to the bankers who create them. Every dollar in existence is a debt to us and an asset to the privately and foreign owned Federal Reserve.

http://dont-tread-on.me/the-game-changer-unite-or-die/

So let me, fizzy, tell you. I was cruising along ...nothing new...nothing new...and then I hit "even if you have a fat bank account of FRN’s,you are still in debt."

I have a "fat bank account" in cash and less than that in debt. But ALL of the dollars in existence are balanced by an GREATER quantity of debt -- to pay off the national debt it would take MORE than all the dollars in existence since interest is also owed and paying off the principal debt with existing dollars would leave the accrued interest debt, but THERE WOULD BE NO DOLLARS LEFT EXISTENT with which to pay it. I knew this, too, but I thought I could side step it personally by holding more dollars.

But, in fact, the tens of trillions of dollars of debt stand and since I am NOT one of the top plutocrats who are exempt from having their "pound of flesh" extracted, nor one who has a tax-exempt position working for the IMF or World Bank criminal cabals, nor one of the bottom 50% who have basically not a pot to pee in and therefore do not pay income taxes, vastly MORE than a million dollars will need to be extracted from ME. On some level I knew that, too, but it hadn't really registered with me that by HOLDING dollars I am upholding this criminal system I had thought I was somehow escaping by having more cash than debt PERSONALLY. So in a way, I am basically enslaving myself by accumulating dollars.... Maybe if I was a NON citizen holding US debt would not be my debt ... but the moral issue would remain (even if I didn't think about it): it is morally WRONG for foreigners to hold dollars as they are, in fact, underwriting the enslavement process here. (Of course most of them have the same problem, but more locally, if they choose to save in their own local currency).

That was a light bulb moment for me: It is morally WRONG to hold dollars because it SUPPORTS and perpetuates the evil debt system. Wow. Wow. Wow. It doesn't really matter that the debt isn't personally my debt ....

I've got to think about this for a while. I'm not sure what this means ... really ... and I guess I reserve the possibility of remaining morally wrong for a while longer while I sort things out.


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