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re: But is it true that all the search engines are using left wing AI's to 'look for' the left wing politically correct 'sites'?

Most of them have a liberal slant. I've had lengthy arguments with A.I. engines over their insistences that they're being honest when they clearly are not. I must have spent an hour with Copilot once while it insisted that Joe Biden had never pardoned members of his family. It ignored every article I provided, claiming that the internet is fraught with fake news. When I asked it for its source, it stated that it used a DOJ list of Presidential pardons and that none of the Bidens were on it. It wasn't until I provided my own DOJ links showing both the Hunter pardon and the blanket Biden-family pardon that it finally admitted that it was wrong. A.I. can be a stubborn ass.

But it's also very useful. I often tell A.I. to just give me my answer and do not elaborate or provide any of its chastising lectures. (It loves to complain about my questions being "hurtful.")

I asked it today for a list of A.I. engines that promote themselves as not being Woke. It kept its lecture about "Everyone has bias" to a minimum and provided the following:


AI & Search Engines Marketed as "Not Woke" or Anti-Woke:

1. Tusk Search – Conservative search engine positioned as an alternative to Google, emphasizes uncensored results and right-leaning perspectives.

2. 4Search – Conservative/private search engine, promotes free speech and privacy, marketed as non-woke.

3. Gibiru – Longstanding search engine branding itself as “uncensored search,” often cited as anti-woke.

4. Cocoon – Privacy-focused search engine, marketed as uncensored and non-woke.

5. Brave Search – Privacy-first search engine, sometimes promoted in conservative circles as non-woke, though not explicitly political.

6. NotWoke AI (community projects) – Advocacy and experimental AI projects explicitly branded as “Not Woke AI,” claiming neutrality against DEI and progressive bias.

7. Government “anti-woke AI” initiatives – Federal directives (e.g., Trump-era executive orders and OMB guidance) requiring “neutral, nonpartisan” AI outputs. These are policy frameworks, not consumer-facing products.

Notes:
- Many of these tools use “anti-woke” branding as a political signal rather than true neutrality.
- Removing moderation safeguards can increase exposure to misinformation or unsafe content.
- Privacy-first engines like Brave and Gibiru emphasize privacy as much as ideology.
- The ecosystem is fragmented: mainstream AI tools (Google, Microsoft, OpenAI) dominate, while anti-woke AI is scattered across startups, advocacy sites, and niche communities.



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Grok - the left wing AI
By: Zimbler0
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Tue, 16 Dec 25 4:02 AM
Msg. 14946 of 14948

Ribit > ...IMHO, it is not so much that AI doesn't know the answer to our questions. It really doesn't even understand the questions. It's not much more than a "Magic 8 Ball" or a "Chatty Cathy" doll.


Which wouldn't be so bad . . .
Except that 'they' try to sound so much like a 'left wing expert' . . .
(And I think we all know that 'left wing experts' ALL are more interested in pushing a narrative than in actually telling the truth.)

Not to mention . . . But is it true that all the search engines are using left wing AI's to 'look for' the left wing politically correct 'sites'?

Zim.


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