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Re: Mars Ice Cap: Climate and Habitability Insights ... + Greenhouse effect digression  

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Zim >>> Do Martian ice caps grow and shrink much in time with the earths ice caps? Or are Martian ice caps growing while the earths are shrinking?

The Martian ice caps grow and shrink on a Mars annual basis (of course) but the long term trend being in sync or out of sync with earth *ie. variations of solar constant* is ... unknown to me.

I highly doubt that any reasonable comparison can yet be made. Not enough 'observation time' of Mars (up close and personal, detailed) has elapsed (imo) for that determination to have been made. I am sure, though, that various people have looked at that issue, and may have taken a stab at it. I would strongly question such a comparison, no matter which way it went.

On 'lost data', Anglia was bad. Remember, Anglia also faked a lot of crap - their big 'email' scandal. NASA's destruction of raw satellite data (climate stuff) was worse, criminal. Happened under Hussein Ø'fuhrer.




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Re: Mars Ice Cap: Climate and Habitability Insights ... + Greenhouse effect digression
By: Zimbler0
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Mon, 18 Aug 25 9:18 PM
Msg. 11774 of 12461

MonkeyTrots > Started from a post about the Mars Ice Caps and went from there.


What I would like to know . . . Do Martian ice caps grow and shrink much in time with the earths ice caps? Or are Martian ice caps growing while the earths are shrinking?

As for 'climate modeling' . . . My current opinion is that 'climate models' produce what the programmers want them to produce. Not necessarily an accurate 'prediction' of the future. (Too much money has been passed out to too many 'fake scientists' . . And I would assume more money was paid to produce fraudulent 'climate models'.)

And let us not forget that NASA/NOAA and several other countries 'temperature takers' have been caught 'adjusting temperatures'. That AIN'T Science.

And then there is that East Anglia set of hand written long term temperature records . . that got destroyed.
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In mid-August the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU) disclosed that it had destroyed the raw data for its global surface temperature data set because of an alleged lack of storage space.

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http://cei.org/news_releases/government-funded-research-unit-destroyed-original-climate-data/
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Given that many of the biggest proponents of 'man made global warming' are also among the biggest 'carbon emitters' . . . I smell a Hoax.

Zim.


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