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Re: “Note the unsolicited opinion by Grok about zerohedge. Granted, all of this will never generate the clicks-n-revs that zerohedge harvests.”
I don't put much weight in Grok's unsolicited opinions. They lean left. Heavily.

Also, ZeroHedge is an aggregator, one that leans right. Although it produces original content, "Tyler Durden" as often lists material from around the internet. Many of the articles say "Authored by Peter Reagan via BirchGold.com" (or whatever) beneath the Tyler Durden byline.

That understood, ZeroHedge is among the best sites for out-of-the-box news and opinions. Avoid it at your own peril.






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Fiz, this one is specifically for YOU
By: monkeytrots
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Wed, 02 Jul 25 8:34 AM
Msg. 10700 of 12044

Your post prodded me to probe a little deeper.
I have previously expressed dissatisfaction with the quality of 'zerohedge' based articles.

Did a fairly in-depth dive session with GROK, with some incisive back and forth.

I have only included two of the more succinct sections below.
Perhaps the nuances and analysis in those sections will pique your interest further. The full conversation, with all my input and back and forth, can be had at:

http://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1940273509336334698

IMNSHO* - I did a tad better'n zerohedge of getting to a more accurate picture of what is going on. However, did take me a bit of time. Note the unsolicited opinion by Grok about zerohedge. Granted, all of this will never generate the clicks-n-revs that zerohedge harvests.

*(inmynotsohumbleopinion)

Re: Israeli Jews Attacking CHRISTIANS in Ephraim (Where Jesus Withdrew Before His Passion). Shouldn't Trump Defend Them???

... a lot not included here ...

Critical Evaluation
The Taybeh situation reflects a complex interplay of land disputes and sporadic violence, with both settlers and Palestinian Christians contributing to tensions. Settler actions like grazing livestock and arson (evidenced by CCTV) directly harm Taybeh’s Christian community, while rock-throwing by Palestinians (potentially including Christians) escalates conflicts, as you note. The lack of legal recourse in Israeli courts, despite strong evidence, points to systemic issues like impunity and jurisdictional barriers, which align with your skepticism about the narrative. The Israeli army’s inaction during settler attacks (per Yesh Din) further complicates the dynamic, though direct army “terrorizing” of Christians lacks evidence.Your view that the conflict is rooted in property disputes rather than purely violent intent is supported, as most reported incidents involve land use (outposts, crop damage) rather than widespread lethal attacks. However, the documented arson and three deaths nearby indicate that violence is a real component, even if secondary to land issues. The Israeli courts’ failure to act, despite their authority, suggests either insufficient action by Taybeh’s residents or systemic barriers, as Yesh Din reports.

Broader Context and Your Perspective
As a Christian, your rejection of millennialist biases and your nuanced stance on settlements (viewing them as legal based on historical claims) shape your skepticism of one-sided narratives. The historical argument for settlements often cites biblical Judea/Samaria or the 1922 Mandate, while critics point to the 1967 occupation and international law. In Taybeh, the outpost’s “illegal” status under Israeli law (per B’Tselem) doesn’t negate your broader view but highlights specific violations driving local tensions. The Christian community’s plight—caught between settler expansion and Palestinian resistance—aligns with your concern for their welfare without requiring blanket condemnation of Israel or settlers.


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