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Re: Russias summer offensive in Ukraine underwhelms ; but Kyiv won’t be celebrating

By: Zimbler0 in GRITZ | Recommend this post (0)
Mon, 30 Jun 25 4:32 AM | 5 view(s)
Boardmark this board | Grits Breakfast of Champeens! 		Msg. 10596 of 10602
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Fiz > Wake up! OUR GOVERNMENT OVERTHREW THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE IN 2014.
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Would not surprise me.
Of course, what are the odds Russia organized a coup before that?

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http://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-really-happened-in-ukraine-in-2014-and-since-then

The prehistory of the 2014 revolution includes the “Orange Revolution” of 2004-05, in which massive protests on the Maidan against an (actual) stolen election that handed Yanukovych the victory over pro-Western rival Viktor Yushchenko ended with Ukraine’s Supreme Court throwing out the results and with Yushchenko winning the re-vote. (During the campaign, Yanukovych had been explicitly backed by Putin and had flown to Moscow for several meetings with his patron; meanwhile, Yushchenko had nearly died from dioxin poisoning in an apparent assassination attempt.) In 2010, an ostensibly new and improved Yanukovych, now advised by American political consultant Paul Manafort—yes, that Paul Manafort, later Donald Trump’s campaign chair and Russiagate star—prevailed over Yushchenko, whose popularity had been undercut by failed reforms and bickering with allies.

Yanukovych’s victory had been achieved by a clever rebranding as a modern liberal democratic leader who would ensure Ukraine’s integration into Europe while also preserving good relations with Russia. In particular, he promised to pursue a free trade agreement with the European Union, seen as putting Ukraine on the path to EU membership. Vladimir Putin responded with what Jacobin’s Marcetic aptly calls “a one-man good-cop, bad-cop routine,” wielding both the carrot of a no-strings loan and the stick of punitive trade measures to strong-arm Yanukovych into backing out of the agreement. In November 2013, Yanukovych reneged on the deal, sparking massive protests dominated by the slogan, “Ukraine is Europe.”
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2021 Ukrainian coup attempt allegations In November 2021, top Ukrainian government officials outlined allegations of a plot to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine which was to take place in early December of that year. The coup plot was allegedly orchestrated by Russia.
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Re: Russias summer offensive in Ukraine underwhelms ; but Kyiv won’t be celebrating
By: Fiz in GRITZ
Mon, 30 Jun 25 3:35 AM 		Msg. 10594 of 10602

We now know (unless you are a Democrat) that USAID was a slush fund set up to infect other countries institutions, perform bribery (and probably murder), and change the results of their elections. Yes. Psychological warfare! Horrors, the truth finally came out in 2025. But you still can't snap out of your trance and your programming?


Wake up! OUR GOVERNMENT OVERTHREW THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE IN 2014.

http://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine

http://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/

"President Barack Obama spent "$5 billion paying Ukrainians to riot and dismantle their democratically elected government."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/05/chronology-of-the-ukrainian-coup/

The US Puppet-Masters -- OBAMA, IF YOU WANT TO VENERATE HIM -- didn't like that more than half of the Ukranian voters wanted to have a good relationship with Russia. So, Obama and his NeoCon friends, OVERTHEW the election AND INSTALLED A PUPPET GOVERNMENT IN UKRAINE.

One which would "properly" hate Russia and Russians; including ethnic Russians who happened to have lived in Ukraine for generations.

One which would do what "The United States" wanted. And, of course, one which would allow more than a few US politicians -- like Biden and the Clintons -- to skim profits from "taxes" and other corruption in Ukraine.

All of us here are still, to one degree or another, suffering from decades of brainwashing, trauma, and "post hypnotic suggestions" about how the world works, how the world should work, and what our GOVERNMENT (a fictitious entity with severe multiple personality disorder) is. Our government is NOT the people of the United States. Our government is NOT the Country of the United States.

In 2014 the "King" of the United States happened to be Obama. You worship Obama, right? You think he is a "good guy"? Oh, you don't?

If you don't than why do you have such a hard time believing that Obama and his friends (folks like Soros and The Clintons, and worse) would overthrow a "democratically elected" government in Ukraine in order to better PILFER the country?

I mean, it is 2025. And you are closer to the end of your life than the beginning. Get a clue. Grow up.

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