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Msg. 10541 of 10569
(This msg. is a reply to 10533 by Zimbler0) |
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Fiz > Was Israel really made stronger by the 12 day war? Zim: "Considering all the munitions expended . . I would say not. But the important question to ask here . . "Is Israel safer?" With iran's nuclear ambitions buried under megatons of rubble I'd have to say "YES". Fiz: Those are good points. The interview brings up that until recently, Israel was considered to have a missle defense [US systems] which were pretty much impenetrable. Now that illusion has been shattered -- both regarding Israel and for the US defense systems in general. And THEN the interview brings up that this may very well be expected to significantly reduce major multi-national foreign investments. Microsoft, for example, supposedly had one of its big buildings likely totalled. Are they going to replace it? Will companies in general re-think their investment plans, given perception changes regarding stability/security of Israel?? Consider what would happen if, in a coming war, the United States were to be hit, HARD, and with comparative ease, in multiple major cities and maybe an airport or three? Just consider. Despite 911 (which was not considered a test of US military defense systems), and despite a port in Hawaii in WW2, the US is still considered "impenetrable". Just consider. "And munitions can be replaced." Fiz> But not for free. Israel has been heavily subsidized by the US. Its own economy can't sustain and shrug off trillions of dollars of munitions and reconstruction. Israel was clearly calling out for more weapons from the US to get through these last few years. And I doubt it was paying fully for them. WRT, Russia-Ukraine, what will Trump do WHEN Russia crosses the Dnieper to the west? Zim: "Why should Trump be responsible for Ukraine?" Fiz> I feel the same! But Trump is acting rather less stable and impervious to manipulation than I had hoped. Zim: "I suspect putin has already lost" Fiz> I expect we are going to find out soon enough. But I fear you aren't properly gauging Russia's comparative size, resources, population, social-cohesion, connection to China, etc. etc. You DO know, I hope, that Russia now holds, FIRMLY pretty much the entirety of the large region it said, at the beginning, was the center of its concerns? I mean the regions which were mostly ethnic Russian? And if it crosses the Dnieper it is a straight and easy path to Kiev? I think you are seriously (completely) misapprehending the comparative "hit" which has already occurred to both countries. I've continued looking for new sources of information over the last 5 years. I think you would be well advised to do the same. Do you remember when I said, years ago, I thought Russia-Ukraine would historically be recognized as the kinetic start of the next World War (I probably called it WW4 and I know I felt, and still feel, that Covid and all the DemonRat antics were actually the opening salvos?...but you don't have to agree with that). The real question IS *will* Trump walk away if Russia continues to advance beyond the Dnieper? CAN HIS EGO HANDLE THAT ... AND ALL ITS BLAME AND CONSEQUENCES? I don't want to be accused of stealing from the interview answers on the linked Rumble podcast. But I probably already could be. So I will steal one line almost entirely (from memory): 'The Greater West (NATO) entered the Ukraine-Russian was as Giants. It will leave as midgets. You may not like that. I *certainly* don't! I think it is essential for humanity that the US, in particular, keep its standing as a world-leader and, in particular, as "land of the free and home of the brave" under the Constitution. It will reverberate around the world if Russia extinguishes Ukraine. However, I think the US and Trump could survive that! But it will completely collapse world perception of US exceptionalism if Trump gets sucked into escalating NATO involvement and then doesn't decisively win. THAT would risk NATO, EU, and US reputation around the world. That would almost-certainly embolden China and BRICS to expand further and faster. And it would probably cost MAGA a large portion of it's base of independent voters. Just remember the black eye the US got from US retreat from Vietnam; and then Afghanistan; and multiply it by 100. Trump has been manipulated and delayed from walking away from the Ukraine honey-pot so far. I honestly fear it is too late for him to do that now without political consequences.
But I fear, vastly more, what happens to 'America First', our Republic, and the huge win for America of the 2024 elections, if he *doesn't* walk away when the NeoCons-EU-WEF shareholders try to coerce him into escalation. Zim: "And China?" . . . What is supposed to keep China from eating Russia's Far East?" Fiz> That may well happen in the longer run. That is why it was such a mistake for the US to have not tried harder to built a sustainable relationship with Russia after Russia was freed of the USSR. And, again, history is very clear the USSR was inflicted on Russia, almost as much as it was on all the other countries (Poland, Hungary, etc. etc.) later absorbed --at the point of a gun -- into it. USSR was a Leninist coup; not a popular election. |
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