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Re: MAGA or MIMA? Questions about Israel's Actions and Trump's Reaction. 

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Re: “We are mostly beginning to see signs of panic from Israel; NOT Iran.”Do tell! In today's news, the Ayatollah has just named his three successors in the event anything should happen to him. The country thinks so highly of them that, collectively, they're already known as 'The Three Stooges.'

I'd say that choosing successors... and buffoon successors at that... is a sign of panic. The headline says so too.

BTW, Israel produces about 6000 barrels of oil per day. But you bring up a good point. The country may want to keep a few of Iran's wells when this thing is finished. That'd be smart. Iran, after all, suffers the same affliction as Hollywood: Too much unearned money; not enough humility. It's become an arrogant bully.
June 21, 2025

Iran’s Supreme Leader picks ‘3 stooges’ to replace him as fear of assassination surges: report

by Katherine Donlevy and Steven Nelson
NYpost.com

Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has chosen a secret list of three potential successors if he succumbs to the same fate as his growing list of valued lieutenants — another handful of whom were killed in overnight Israeli strikes Saturday.

Khamenei, 86, the Islamic Republic’s supreme leader since 1989, believes that either Israel or the US will try to kill him and crafted the list while holed up in a bunker, ordering his nation’s Assembly of Experts — the clerical body responsible for appointing the supreme leader — to choose from his handpicked pool should his enemies be successful, officials told The New York Times.

“If you need any more evidence that the ayatollah is shaking in his boots, look no further than him identifying his three stooges,” a source close to the White House told The Post.


Iran Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has handpicked three people he wants to succeed him if he is assassinated.

Khamenei’s 55-year-old son, Mojtaba, also a cleric and close to the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, was once rumored to be a front-runner, but was not included on the ayatollah’s succession list, as Israel continues to dominate the skies over Tehran.

Although the list has not been published, a clear front-runner is the head of Iran’s judicial system Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Eje’i, 68, due to his “willingness to be pretty ruthless in times of crisis,” Gabriel Noronha, an expert on Iranian politics, told The Post.

Assembly of Experts member Mohsen Qomi, 65, would be a strong “runner up,” said Noronha, fellow at the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. Qomi is a close confidant to Khamanei and a senior adviser on foreign affairs and communications.

Other possible successors include long-serving Assembly of Experts member Mohsen Araki, Guardian Council member Alireza Arafi and Assembly of Experts member Hashem Hosseini Bushehri.

Noronha argued in a series of X posts that it’s possible that Khamenei left his son off the list to avoid being “seen as monarchic.”

“Khamenei should be wary of being seen as ‘picking’ his son to succeed him. But the Assembly of Experts could ignore it and appoint him as Leader anyway,” Noronha wrote.

The supreme leader’s pre-selection of candidates is a deviation from Iran’s expected months-long process of clerics choosing a supreme leader — a transition that’s only occurred once before when Khamanei himself replaced revolutionary leader Ayatollah Khomeini.

“The top priority is the preservation of the state,” said Vali Nasr, an Iran expert and professor of international affairs at Johns Hopkins University, told The Times about Khamenei’s decision.

“It is all calculative and pragmatic.”

The supreme leader has been relaying his wishes to his commanders through a single trusted aide — abandoning his use of electronic communications, according to the report.

Spokespeople for Iran’s mission to the United Nations did not immediately respond to The Post’s request for comment.

Khamenei abandoned his home in Tehran at the start of the conflict.

The Islamic Republic’s Ministry of Intelligence has also ordered all senior government officials and military commanders to remain below ground, according to two Iranian officials.

He has also been running through his chain of military command to choose an array of replacements for his growing list of murdered lieutenants.

Three commanders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were killed in separate strikes Friday and Saturday — including the “founder of the Iranian regime’s plan to destroy Israel,” officials in Tel Aviv said.

Saeed Izadi led the Palestine Corps of the overseas arm, known as the Quds Force, which was a “key coordinator” between Iran and Hamas, and helped arm the terrorist group ahead of its Oct. 7, 2023 massacre.

Benham Shahriyari was also killed. He led the arm’s weapons transfer unit, and was responsible for supplying missiles and rockets launched at Israel to Hezbollah, Hamas and Yemen’s Houthis, according to the IDF.

Israel also claimed to have killed Amin Pour Joudaki, commander of the Second Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Brigade, in which he “coordinated hundreds of drone launches toward Israeli territory.”

“Like the new head of the Iranian military whom the Israelis killed last week only days after he was promoted, these guys are not long for this world,” a former Trump administration national security official told The Post. “Their new godly command should be to book a one-way ticket out of the country ASAP.”

The fear of assassination is so rampant that the Ministry of Intelligence issued numerous security protocols that restrict officials from using any electronic devices to communicate.

All senior government officials and military commanders have also been ordered to hide underground.

Khamenei retreated into a bunker when the Iran-Israel conflict broke out last week — abandoning his highly secure compound in Tehran called the “beit rahbari,” or leader’s house.

He has delivered two recorded messages to the public, both insisting Iran would not surrender.

“The people of Iran will stand against a forced war,” he said in one.

http://nypost.com/2025/06/21/world-news/irans-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-picking-supreme-leader-successors/

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Re: MAGA or MIMA? Questions about Israel's Actions and Trump's Reaction.
By: Fiz in GRITZ
Sat, 21 Jun 25 8:26 PM 		Msg. 10092 of 10153

GENIUS is an asset mostly early in the game. When I say "war of attrition" I mean human fighters and natural resources.

As a simple example, you can't kill many with a rocket if you have no petroleum on your territory and can't get any without slow tankers and long pipelines -- which are easy to spot and blow up.

Israel, doubtless, has the geniuses...although Iran has plenty of its own (or did, acknowledging that a lot of them fled decades ago...because that is another thing 'geniuses' are good at).

Anyway, that is why I said "War of attrition". Israel is great at the Blitzkreig. But Iran, as I also said, has been hardened to adversity by having years of prior wars under its belt, plus decades of sanctions, PLUS A RELATIVELY MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE (common to most Westerner's mistaken perception).

Iran has survived for almost 3,000 years -- it used to be called "Persia". It was often considered a world leading power. At other times, it was considered a respectable 2nd tier power. But it is still there. Israel? Not so much.

Anyway, these are different games. Israel's ability to pull off magic tricks is running out as cleverly pre-prepared weapons have been used already.

Israel is running really low on munitions -- which is why it is calling for help and trying to "rope a dope" the US into getting involved beyond supplying weapons.

And Iran has advanced DRAMATICALLY in terms of weapons over the last 50 years. Israel? Not so much.

You won't get that scoop listening to US heavy Israeli-propaganda and NeoCon players.

But if Iran was going to fold easily we ought to have seen strong indications of that already. We have not. We are mostly beginning to see signs of panic from Israel; NOT Iran.

The real loser of this thing, so far, is Donald Trump and the U.S. Maybe something will arrive soon to allow Trump to get out of the neo-con trap. Otherwise he is increasily looking like the Deep State has gotten him again. Again, unless Iran collapses very soon (next month or so) they dynamics all the way around are looking increasingly bad.

Especially for the US things are not looking good as Trump appears slow at learning that “business negotiation” and international diplomacy look more similar than they actually are. And he keeps getting taken or blackmailed or sweet-talked by Neo-Con types here in the US. Let's keep in mind, here at home Trump's MAJORITY depends entirely on keeping Neo-Cons sufficiently satisfied with the warring. If he out-and-out loses support of the pro-war factions MAGA is out of legislative protection...and he can be impeached again.

And Israel absolutely needs to suckle fiercely on the US teat for money and munitions, or all its geniuses will be down to throwing rocks -- or escalating to nuclear first strikes.

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