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10107 Re: MAGA or MIMA? Questions about Israel's Actions and Trump's Reaction.
   
   Fiz > And Iran has advanced DRAMATICALLY in terms of weapons over the... 		Zimbler0   GRITZ   21 Jun 2025
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Re: MAGA or MIMA? Questions about Israel's Actions and Trump's Reaction.

By: Fiz in GRITZ
Sat, 21 Jun 25 8:26 PM
Msg. 10092 of 10135
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GENIUS is an asset mostly early in the game. When I say "war of attrition" I mean human fighters and natural resources.

As a simple example, you can't kill many with a rocket if you have no petroleum on your territory and can't get any without slow tankers and long pipelines -- which are easy to spot and blow up.

Israel, doubtless, has the geniuses...although Iran has plenty of its own (or did, acknowledging that a lot of them fled decades ago...because that is another thing 'geniuses' are good at).

Anyway, that is why I said "War of attrition". Israel is great at the Blitzkreig. But Iran, as I also said, has been hardened to adversity by having years of prior wars under its belt, plus decades of sanctions, PLUS A RELATIVELY MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE (common to most Westerner's mistaken perception).

Iran has survived for almost 3,000 years -- it used to be called "Persia". It was often considered a world leading power. At other times, it was considered a respectable 2nd tier power. But it is still there. Israel? Not so much.

Anyway, these are different games. Israel's ability to pull off magic tricks is running out as cleverly pre-prepared weapons have been used already.

Israel is running really low on munitions -- which is why it is calling for help and trying to "rope a dope" the US into getting involved beyond supplying weapons.

And Iran has advanced DRAMATICALLY in terms of weapons over the last 50 years. Israel? Not so much.

You won't get that scoop listening to US heavy Israeli-propaganda and NeoCon players.

But if Iran was going to fold easily we ought to have seen strong indications of that already. We have not. We are mostly beginning to see signs of panic from Israel; NOT Iran.

The real loser of this thing, so far, is Donald Trump and the U.S. Maybe something will arrive soon to allow Trump to get out of the neo-con trap. Otherwise he is increasily looking like the Deep State has gotten him again. Again, unless Iran collapses very soon (next month or so) they dynamics all the way around are looking increasingly bad.

Especially for the US things are not looking good as Trump appears slow at learning that “business negotiation” and international diplomacy look more similar than they actually are. And he keeps getting taken or blackmailed or sweet-talked by Neo-Con types here in the US. Let's keep in mind, here at home Trump's MAJORITY depends entirely on keeping Neo-Cons sufficiently satisfied with the warring. If he out-and-out loses support of the pro-war factions MAGA is out of legislative protection...and he can be impeached again.

And Israel absolutely needs to suckle fiercely on the US teat for money and munitions, or all its geniuses will be down to throwing rocks -- or escalating to nuclear first strikes.