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Fiz: "Space is CREATED by gravity; if no gravity then no space...I'm about 99.9% I've got all that right."

I'm calling myself to provide evidence in support of this SPECIFIC statement, so nobody else needs to. I started thinking overnight that my "99.9%" level of assurance might be a bit high, with regard to space itself. So this morning I started searching -- and I was surprised that my searches mostly came up embarrassingly empty. Which I thought, and still think, is odd...

However, that said, I DID find a pretty authortative source which obliquely supports my statement:


http://einstein.stanford.edu/content/relativity/a11332.html

Special & General Relativity Questions and Answers
Can space exist by itself without matter or energy around?

No. Experiments continue to show that there is no 'space' that stands apart from space-time itself...no arena in which matter, energy and gravity operate which is not affected by matter, energy and gravity. General relativity tells us that what we call space is just another feature of the gravitational field of the universe, so space and space-time can and do not exist apart from the matter and energy that creates the gravitational field. This is not speculation, but sound observation.

I'm still bothered that I have not seen a good theory of HOW time and space (space-time) are specifically CREATED by gravity. Time is slowed by gravity. Space-time is BENT by gravity. But when I try to dig in on "CREATED", the above is the best I have found so far. If someone finds something further, or contrary, or importantly different, please bring it to my attention.

Okay?

Until then I am going to stick with what I laid out in my first post, except maybe lower the assurance from 99.9% to only 99%. Is that fair enough?


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Re: What is Twistor Theory? | Roger Penrose AND What came before Big Bang? Why he changed his mind.
By: Fiz
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Mon, 09 Jun 25 5:35 AM
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"Space-time tells matter how to move; matter tells space-time how to curve." - John Archibald Wheeler #space #spacetime #curves

Inertia is the cumulative gravity in the universe acting on a point. Gravity is the result of mass bending spacetime. Space is CREATED by gravity; if no gravity then no space.

Therefore, if the universe was infinite, inertia would be infinite...and nothing could overcome inertia...and nothing could move.

ipso facto, the universe is not infinite.

Following this line of logic, if all the mass in the universe disappeared, all the space, and all the gravity, and all the inertia would disappear. At the speed of light, of course. How could you move if there was no longer any space in which to move?


I'm about 99.9% I've got all that right. I am sure about the quote at the top, and Wheeler would know.


“I am only an egg.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land


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