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Decomposed > but immediately followed it up with something equally unsupported, that space is infinite and time has no beginning or end. I'm curious why you think that. Have you given those things as much thought as you have God?


Actually, I haven't thought a whole lot about God.

In my math studies there is the cartesian coordinate system with the axis (theoretically) running out to infinity. Geometric Rays and Lines going out forever. Solving equations - and having to use special notations that use the infinity symbol to properly answer them.

Space is infinite? That is the only thing that makes sense. If space is not infinite - then what is on the other side of the wall?

And Time. Time just keeps marching on. One second elapses, and there is another second right behind it. What was 'the beginning of time?' I don't think there was an actual beginning of time. One can pick the 'Big Bang' as the start of time . . . But I'm pretty sure there was something that could only be described as 'the passing of time' before the Big Bang.

If time and space are finite . . . then we must be in a box. And what is outside the box?

My universe only makes sense if it is Infinite.

But then I also live on a finite sized planet. And the reality of my life is that whether time and space are infinite or not really does not make much difference. And so life goes on.
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Re: What is Twistor Theory? | Roger Penrose AND What came before Big Bang? Why he changed his mind.
By: De_Composed
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Mon, 09 Jun 25 2:12 AM
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Re: “(I'm not going to say God did not do it . . but I can't bring myself to blindly believe he did.) Given my belief that space is infinite . . and time has no beginning or end . . ”
Most of us have a belief system. That is, most of us rely on understandings for which there is insufficient - or even oppositionial - evidence. Why do we do this? Just because. We're human and that's what we do.

"God" is one of the best examples of this. There's no solid evidence for or against God, but most people believe in Him anyway. What I think is interesting about your last post is that you said you CAN'T blindly believe God did something (for now, it doesn't matter what) but immediately followed it up with something equally unsupported, that space is infinite and time has no beginning or end. I'm curious why you think that. Have you given those things as much thought as you have God?

An approach I favor is to acknowledge that I don't have the answers to the universe's mysteries and, therefore, to avoid "believing" anything since it'll probably be wrong. But I do think about them and assign probabilities - a probability that God created the universe, a probability that time is infinite, a probability that space is infinite, a probability that there was something before the Big Bang, a probability that there is something beyond the universe's 'edge,' etc., then alter those probabilities as new evidence and understandings reach me. I don't like being locked in by things I know I don't really understand and this approach does a good job of preventing that from happening.






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