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Good article; good point about how this might advantage DeSantis.
I live in Florida (when I am not confused) and DeSantis is a *GREAT* governor. What he has accomplished as *administrator* of Florida is really remarkable. He is probably the #1 thing I like about Florida, and that is saying a lot.
But DeSantis demonstrated pretty conclusively in his Presidential campaign that he lacks charisma and ability to reach people with his speeches. Also, of course, I think his timing wasn't right, but if Democrats were to run someone with Obama's speaking charisma, DeSantis would be at a massive disadvantage -- no matter his amazing record of great administration. I wish it wasn't like that, I wish most Americans weren't that two-dimensional, but it is.
FWIW;
It did occur to me, briefly, yesterday that Elon Musk *could* have thrown himself under the bus in this way in order to regain some of his standing with Democrats. Why would he do that? Well, Democrats WERE Tesla's #1 customer base (at least I think that is true, maybe I will research it). And he has poisoned them as a customer base by cammpaigning and associating with Trump. Do I seriously think he did what he did, deliberately, for that reason? No, not really. But I thought it was an amusing observation.
DE's KETAMINE theory is a good one. Through the years, Musk has often "joked" about his use of various drugs. IMO, he has "joked" about it many times too many for it to actually be just a joke. He as also made comments like "you wouldn't want to be me". So it probably isn't easy having to manage his responsibilities and his head. And, ketamine or not, he clearly had some sort of breakdown yesterday. Not good business, for openers.
No, it’s not JD Vance. I know Musk floated the vice president’s name in his “impeach Trump” tweet, but Vance is going to stay loyal to the president. And since one of the VP’s roles is to serve as the president’s ever-loyal attack dog, if Musk keeps sniping at Trump, eventually Vance will bite back.
He’ll have to: It’s his job.
Given how thin-skinned and absolutist Musk has proven himself to be, one harsh word from Vance would be a relationship dealbreaker. The veep can still serve an invaluable role as a potential peacemaker (assuming there’s a path forward), but he’s ill-suited to be Musk’s political ally.
There’s just too much of an inherent conflict.
And besides, Vance’s path to the presidency doesn’t require Musk’s money or serving as Elon’s protégé, but being recognized as MAGA’s heir apparent. Thus, the trail Vance is likely to blaze leads him towards Trump, not Musk.
Who, then, on the GOP’s side, is eyeing the Trump-Musk feud and hoping the schism is permanent? Who could (potentially) gain the most from the split?
There’s a wildcard. And he works in Tallahassee.
Only a few years ago, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) was flying high. He won reelection by an overwhelming landslide and was hailed as the future of the Republican Party. His work in Florida was nothing short of transformative: Under his watch, America’s ultimate “swing state” — pre-DeSantis, Florida was so deeply purple, it was practically humming “Smoke on the Water” — morphed into a ruby-red, rock-solid Republican stronghold.
“American decline is not inevitable — it is a choice. And we should choose a new direction — a path that will lead to American revitalization,” DeSantis said on the glitchy stream, racing through his conservative accomplishments. “I am running for president of the United States to lead our great American comeback.” [emphasis added]
Yes, the glitchy stream: Gov. DeSantis announced his presidential bid on Twitter (X) in a live broadcast with… Elon Musk. Unfortunately, it didn’t go so well, reported the AP:
Elon Musk wants to turn Twitter into a “digital town square,” but his much-publicized Twitter Spaces kickoff event, with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announcing his run for president, struggled with technical glitches and a near half-hour delay Wednesday.
The billionaire Twitter owner said the problems were due to “straining” servers because so many people were trying to listen to the audio-only event. But even at their highest, the number of listeners listed topped out at around 420,000, far from the millions of viewers that televised presidential announcements attract.
Naturally, all those digital SNAFUs elicited howls of laughter from the governor’s critics:
DeSantis opponents had a field day with the delayed announcement.“
Glitchy. Tech issues. Uncomfortable silences. A complete failure to launch. And that’s just the candidate!” said Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for former President and current candidate Donald Trump.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, tweeted, “We had more people join when I played Among Us,” referencing the popular video game.
But DeSantis struggled mightily during his presidential campaign. Not only did he fall far short of Trump, he even struggled to keep pace with fellow Gov. Nikki Haley (R-S.C.). The same DeSantis who seemed so cocky and confident in Florida came across as stilted, awkward, and unlikeable in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Meanwhile, Trump marched forward: Florida’s most famous resident returned to the White House in 2024, and DeSantis returned to the governor’s mansion. Trump populated his cabinet with all kinds of Floridians — Marco Rubio! Pam Bondi! Susie Wiles! Mike Waltz! — with one notable exclusion:
Gov. DeSantis was persona non grata.
Today, he’s standing at a political crossroads: DeSantis is prohibited by term limits from running for governor again. When ex-Florida Gov. Rick Scott was term-limited, he was able to pivot to the Senate — but because of the GOP’s success in the Sunshine State, there aren’t any open Senate seats left. Everything statewide is already filled with Republic.
Before being told of the Trump endorsement, Mrs. DeSantis was statistically tied with Donalds, of Naples, at 29% and 28% respectively. The margin of error of the survey, which was conducted May 5 to 7, is 2.77%.
So, without Trump’s endorsement, Casey DeSantis held a narrow lead (1 point). But afterwards:
But that support came after the James Madison Institute’s sample of 516 registered Republican voters, out of 1,200 registered voters altogether, were told President Donald Trump had endorsed Donalds – the only officially-declared leading Republican in the race.
That’s a huge swing. Right now, there’s simply no way Casey DeSantis could defeat Byron Donalds. He’s too far ahead, and if she goes down in flames, it would further damage the DeSantis brand. He’d probably have to return to Congress and rebuild his reputation.
Which means, if those poll numbers stay constant, Mrs. DeSantis won’t even run. Just too much to lose.
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