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De: “There is no optimistic scenario. Events have progressed too far for that. Even if we begin to turn things around by forcing Congress to cut spending, reduce the debt, and disentangle from UN treaties, the Cabal will not let go without a ferocious fight....”

In the video interview he seemed considerably more upbeat. He prefaced all with the longer story of how big an undertaking it would be to get our freedom back, but he actually sounded upbeat.

So, without holding my breath, I'm going to ASSUME that Trump even getting into office and beginning all these major changes and reforms actually has given Griffin hope!

It needs to give us all hope. But hope isn't enough -- and we, the people who care, must keep up the battle for the rest of our lives and, indeed, because we are still in the first innings...and the Banksters are nowhere near ready to surrender THE FRANCHISE!

And here is a transcription I read off last night of the bullet points Griffin identified as the complete plan. Please forgive some probably atrocious speak-os!

1.0 repeal the legal tender laws. (allow alternatives)
2.0 freeze the present supply of federal reserve notes except for what will be needed in step number six.
3.0 Define the real dollar in terms of precious metal content preferably what it was in the past: 371.25 grains of silver.
4.0 establish gold as an auxiliary monetary reserve.
5.0 restore free coinage at the US mint and issue "silver dollars" as well as gold pieces. Only coins with silver content can be called dollars.
6.0 pay off the national debt with federal reserve notes created for that purpose. Creating money without backing is for bidden by the constitution; however when no one is forced by law to accept federal reserve notes as legal telemeter they will no longer be the official money of the United States. :-)
7.0 pledge the governments horde of gold and silver to be used as backing for all the federal reserve notes in circulation.
8.0 determine the weight of all the gold and silver owned by the US government.
9.0 determine the number of all the federal reserve notes.
10.0 retire all federal reserve notes from circulation by offering to exchange them for dollars of the calculated ratio. There will be enough gold or silver to redeem every federal reserve note in circulation!
11.0 convert all contracts based on federal reserve notes dollars.
12.0 issue silver certificates.
13.0 abolish the federal reserve system.
14.0 introduce free banking.
15.0 reduce the size and scope of government. (Get out of UN, foreign treaties, other countries affairs)

VICTORY!! WW4 WILL BE OVER! (I hope)




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Re: Super-Recent G Edward Griffin Interview on Youtube. His Latest Book is a Free Download at: chasm.realityzone.com
By: De_Composed
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Mon, 19 May 25 5:11 PM
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Re: “I *finally* opened up The Creature From Jekyl Island yesterday and started reading the LAST chapter (I couldn't stand the suspense) on what might be done about the problem of "The Franchise".”
Here are the notes I took on that chapter.

Chapter 26: A REALISTIC SCENARIO (pp 565 - 588 )

“There is no optimistic scenario. Events have progressed too far for that. Even if we begin to turn things around by forcing Congress to cut spending, reduce the debt, and disentangle from UN treaties, the Cabal will not let go without a ferocious fight.” … “When the Second Bank of the United States was struggling for its life in 1834, Nicholas Biddle, who controlled it, set about to cause as much havoc in the economy as possible and then to blame it on President Jackson’s anti-bank policies. By suddenly tightening credit and withdrawing money from circulation, he triggered a full-scale national depression. At the height of his attack, he declared: ‘ all other banks and all the merchants may break, but the bank of the United States shall not break.’ The amount of devastation that could be caused by today’s Federal Reserve is infinitely greater than what Biddle was able to unleash. ”
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What must not be done? (pp 567 - 573)

1) “Turn to the government for more of the same ‘cures’ that have made us ill.”
2) “Abolish the Fed and turn over its operations to the Treasury.” It makes no difference whether the Fed is government or private. Turning the Federal Reserve over to the Treasury without at the same time eliminating its ability to manipulate the money supply would be a colossal waste of time.
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A discussion of the Kennedy assassination. Griffin is critical of the banking motive that hit the rumor mill in 1981. That Kennedy intended to expose the Fed is highly unlikely. He was a lifelong socialist and internationalist. He had attended the Fabian London School of Economics; participated in the destruction of the American money supply; and engineered the transfer of American wealth to foreign nations. Why would he have suddenly “seen the light”?
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A Balanced Budget amendment won’t work because Congress will respond by raising taxes to the point where voters collapse under the weight and demand the amendment be circumvented. Most versions of a balanced budget amendment included a clause stating that Congress shall balance its budget ’except in cases of emergency.’ And Congress gets to decide what qualifies.
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A more serious amendment would have to tackle, not balancing the budget, but limiting the spending. But Congress would still find a workaround. A better bet would be for voters simply to throw the big spenders out of office.
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“Another flaw with most versions of a balanced budget amendment is that it would not affect the off-budget expenditures called entitlements. They now [2008] represent 52% of all federal outlays and are growing by 12% each year.”

Under a balanced budget amendment, inflation would continue. “The Federal Reserve can now inflate our money supply by using literally any debt in the world. It does not have to come from Congress. Unless we zero in on the Fed itself, we will just be playing political games with no chance of winning.”

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Auditing the Fed would be pointless since it can be assumed that “the Fed is doing exactly what it says and is in total compliance with the law. A few minor improprieties would probably be discovered involving personal use of funds or insider profiteering, but that would be minor compared to the gigantic fraud that already is out in the open for all to see. The Federal Reserve is the world’s largest and most successful scam.”

An audit would delay serious action for years. It would give the false impression that Congress is doing something. Likely, the very groups and combines that need to be investigated would be conducting, or at least confounding, the investigation. We do not need a bill to audit the Fed. We need to abolish it.
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“All that would be required to abolish the Federal Reserve System is an act of Congress consisting of one sentence: ‘The Federal Reserve Act and all of its amendments are hereby rescinded. ’ But that would wipe out our monetary system overnight and create such havoc in the economy that it would play right into the hands of the globalists.” … “The American people would likely welcome a rescue from the IMF / World Bank.”
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To avoid that, there are certain steps to take first: “The first is to convert our present fiat money into real money. That means we must create an entirely new money supply which is 100% backed by precious metal.”

16 steps for doing this are described.
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Discusses the transition to a new, silver-backed currency. And one day, the hangover will be gone. “From that point forward, prices will begin a gradual descent as advances in technology allow improved efficiency and production. With the arrival of lower prices, better job opportunities, and increasing prosperity, the voices of discontent will gradually fade.”

A calculation based on 1993 data comes to the conclusion that one silver dollar would be worth 213 federal-reserve notes. I’d guess that it would be 7.5 times that high today. The national debt in 1993 was $4.4 trillion. Today it is $31 trillion. But what has happened to the entitlements during that period? I have no idea.
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“Another variant of the realistic scenario is that our entire system could collapse, including the international structure being assembled at the UN. If that should happen, we won’t have to worry about an orderly transition to a sound monetary system, because it won’t happen. Our primary concern will be basic survival.” … “If a sufficient number of people were well enough informed to know in advance what the enemy’s game plan is, and especially if they were in the right places within the system, they would be able to provide leadership at the critical moment.”
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How to prepare: 1) Get out of debt. 2) Pick a sound bank. 3) Diversify your investments. 4) Avoid the most recent ‘best’ performers. 5) When investing in coins, avoid those with high numismatic value. 6) Maintain a stash of cash.
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“Unfortunately, the creature has siblings, and they hunt and feed together.” … “We are not likely to slay one of these creatures without the others. We must eradicate the species. The species is collectivism. Collectivism is the concept that the group is more important than the individual and that government is justified in any act so long as it is claimed to be for the greater good of the greater number. That is the foundation upon which the Federal Reserve is built and it is the foundation for literally every other modern assault against our liberty.”
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“Americans have allowed their nation to be stolen from right under their noses because they did not understand what was happening.” … “Therefore, the starting point for any realistic plan for survival and beyond is an awakening of America - and the world. ” … “Knowledge by itself is not power, but it holds the potential for power if we use it as a guide for action.”
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Nine steps outlining what will be required for victory over the agents of collectivism. It won’t be easy. The time for armchair patriotism is over.
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CONCLUSIONS AND SUMMARY: this is more than just the summary of a chapter. It is the culmination of the entire book. It also lists the seven reasons to abolish the Federal Reserve System as mentioned at the book’s start, with each being covered in various places throughout the book.
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