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De: That was very insightful -- and helpful for me, personally. It is so built in to our neurology (well, certainly to mine) to want "justice" and "an eye for an eye".

But the "eyes" go hundreds, and then thousands, and then millions of years into the past. One wrong supposedly justified by a previous, as its "justice" seeds the next. And there can be no end, in that frame.

For myself, for now, I am trying mostly to pray that the S-P-I-R-I-T of the Constitution, and particularly the ideal of individual agency/freedom, gets preserved. For mankind to slide back from here would be catastrophic and, potentially, absolutely fatal -- on a scale none of us can fully comprehend. It is easy to think we are going to get another chance, or that Jesus will forgive everything.

There is a lot of ugliness in the world, and in history. Sometimes almost so much darkness it can be hard to see the bright stars of the ideals; those who built the elevated platform on which we now act.

So, during my moments of sanity, I keep trying to focus on them, and the upward trend, and the possibility that mankind makes it through these "tests" and gets the opportunity to finally climb up to a much higher level. Going to Mars, as a first step toward the galaxay, sounds good to me.

I mean, we had our chance, gifted from the past, to aim higher. Why don't we want better, yet? What of those young, or still-to-come? Why can't we leave them a future even brighter?

What did Jesus die for, again? Or Buddha? Or even Einstein? Even if we don't really "believe", weren't those bright examples. Don't we, at least, owe them something a little better than another "vengence"?

Forgive me if I am getting too flowery. But sometimes I have a vision of what humanity COULD be, if we could just graduate ... from kindergarten.

But some spirits, don't want us to graduate from kindergarten. They don't want anyone to graduate...because they didn't.


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Re: Some 150 Drones Target Ukraine As Trump Doubts Putin On Peace: "Just Tapping Me Along"
By: De_Composed
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Sun, 27 Apr 25 8:51 PM
Msg. 07454 of 07496

fizzy:

Re: “Do I think Trump has the strength of character to do the right thing, now, and just walk away? I don't think he does, but I hope; he has surprised me to the upside before. ”
In the last few weeks, Trump has leveled accusations at both Putin and Zelensky of not actually wanting Peace. My guess is that he's going to give Zelensky one more chance, then pull our support. Trump knows full well that the U.S. cannot afford fights in which it has no concrete interest. The Ukraine war must end.

It's my impression that some of this board's regulars get a thrill up their leg watching Ukrainians and Russians die. I don't think they understand amidst all their "Putin! Putin! Putin!" caterwauling that they're targeting the wrong dictator and the wrong country.






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