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Mike Johnson's speakership is on the line.

If he offers support for Ukraine he'll get support from the dem's.

He's holding back sending impeachment for Mayorka until next week, why you might ask...

If the process began today as scheduled, “House Republicans would have delivered the articles to the Senate against the backdrop of testimony from the DHS chief who helped craft a bipartisan bill that would have allocated $20 billion in emergency funding for border security and immigration — and has previously lamented the agency as a ‘perennially financially starved’ department,” our colleague Jacqueline Alemany and Liz Goodwin write with Leigh Ann.

The split-screen next week will be an impeachment process that Republicans have used as a proxy for President Biden’s border policies alongside the start of former president Donald Trump’s criminal trial in New York, where he is accused of allegedly falsifying business records to cover up an affair. The trial is set to start Monday.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/10/inside-republicans-impeachment-strategy/


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Trump has already killed NATO
By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 10 Apr 24 6:44 AM
Msg. 52777 of 54959

The rest of us will continue to work together with the US for as long as possible.

But the trust has now gone. The other countries no longer believe the US will necessarily be on the European side in a war with Russia. Even if it is initially, the GOP will screw it up if it wants leverage.

The Dems would be with NATO, of course. But you have a Republican party with a leadership that is sympathetic to dictatorship and that will undermine Dem support for NATO. And we have to be strong enough to deal with that.

US isolationism is back. The US equivalent of appeasement at the beginning of World War II. Hopefully you won't fight on the side of the Russians if Trump wins, but I don't entirely rule it out any more.

There will be 500m Europeans in the post-NATO defence organisation, so we should be capable of becoming a lot stronger. But also bear in mind that a strong Europe won't listen to the US so much any more. And I imagine countries like Japan, Australia and South Korea will align with us over a fickle partner like the US. Canada too.

Trump is already doing an immense amount of harm to US interests with his prevention of aid to Ukraine via congress and his pro-Putin stance. And the fact that the GOP voters support him tells us how deep the rot is.


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