Here’s an eight-minute clip of the Barr interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKWsg-bh2YU
Barr — who very publicly broke with Trump following the 2020 election, including resigning from the Justice Department — said the case against Trump is “complicated” and has plenty of downsides. But the longtime legal figure pushed back on several of Trump’s defenses.
Barr told Collins that the First Amendment “does not protect you from entering into a conspiracy. All conspiracies involve speech and all fraud involves speech. So free speech doesn’t give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy.”
Barr added that Trump’s argument that he was simply listening to advice from lawyers would open up the former president to cross examination. In the former attorney general’s mind that, “would not come out very well for him.”
Furthermore, Barr said he believes special counsel Jack Smith has “a lot more to come, a lot more evidence as to President Trump’s state of mind” than was included in the indictment.
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