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Re: Why is Germany dragging its feet again?

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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So, over the last few days, Poland has threatened to ignore its Leopard contract and provide Ukraine with some from its stock, and Germany has done a U-turn on making the export of Leopards to Ukraine conditional on the US providing its Abrams to them.

Things are in motion.

I's a ruddy nuisance the Germans are such reluctant supporters of the war, but maybe they will swing away from pacifism knowing that in the face of a man like Putin [or Hitler] you have no choice.

Here's the good news. If Ukraine has 100 modern tanks, it can do some real damage to the Russian army's defensive lines. And if they can be pushed out of eastern Ukraine, then Crimea can also be recovered. And that will be the end of the Great Russia plan.




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Re: Why is Germany dragging its feet again?
By: Cactus Flower
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Thu, 19 Jan 23 9:21 AM
Msg. 48449 of 54959

I wonder if the countries with Leopard 2's will tell Germany to hell with our contract, this is about survival and we're going to send some of the tanks we have to Ukraine. We'll replace them with tanks manufactured in Britain.

My guess is that something like that might be cooking. Poland and the Baltic states are enraged by Germany. Finland also wants to send some of its Leopards.

It also makes poor political and commercial sense as none of these countries will trust Germany as a source of weapons in the future. I'm guessing there will be a northwestern arm of NATO, made up of Britain, Scandinavia and the countries of the eastern Baltic that cooperates on the development and manufacture of military equipment and excludes Germany.

Throw Ukraine into the mix too.


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