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Re: Ukraine on the subject of negotiations

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Zelensky/Wallace are right and Biden/Milley are horribly wrong on this. Russia must lose or it will keep doing the same thing.

I think Biden/Milley talk to the weak-kneed Germans too much. The domestic pressure on Putin will be increasing. We have a real shot at a new and better Russia here.

"After a string of Russian defeats in the war, U.K. Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is urging Ukraine to “keep up the pressure, keep up the momentum” and continue their rapid-fire attacks on Vladimir Putin’s forces through the winter months.

“Given the advantage the Ukrainians have in equipment training and quality of their personnel against the demoralized, poorly trained, poorly equipped Russians, it would be in the Ukraine’s interest to maintain momentum through the winter,” Wallace said. “They have 300,000 pieces of arctic warfare kit, from the international community”—a crucial requirement for any winter offensive....

The intervention comes at a time when senior American officials have tried to nudge Ukraine away from the battlefield and towards the negotiating table.

Two weeks ago, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned that, because Ukraine may not reach a full victory on the battlefield, it should use the expected slowdown in military operations over the winter as a “window” for discussions with the Russians.

But President Volodymyr Zelensky has declared that he will not negotiate with Russia while Putin remains in power, and has said that any settlement must end with Ukraine in control of all its post-independence territories, including the Donbas and Crimea."

http://dnyuz.com/2022/11/24/russia-risks-knockout-blow-in-war-as-putin-hits-rock-bottom/





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Ukraine on the subject of negotiations
By: Cactus Flower
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Sun, 20 Nov 22 12:37 PM
Msg. 47982 of 54959

They are exactly right.

Putin's object is like Trump's: delay. He wants time to rebuild.

Now is the time to increase pressure on Russian forces, not to leave them in control of stolen territory. There's no nice Putin to work with. He is a sociopath and will not be cured of his homicidal nature. The only thing to do is to push Russia out and have it realise it will win nothing by military means.

A bear respects a porcupine. You don't offer it a meal.

"Ukraine says negotiating with Russia would be 'capitulation': Zelensky's presidential advisor condemns West's 'bizarre' attempts to persuade them to enter peace talks as they refuse to stop offensive against Putin's forces

Mykhaylo Podolyak condemned West's efforts to persuade Ukraine to negotiate
This would mean the country 'who is recovering its territories is losing,' he said
He also warned against trusting any Russian suggestions of peace negotiations
Podolyak said this is merely an attempt to stall to allow Russian units to regroup"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11449167/Zelenskys-presidential-advisor-says-negotiating-Russia-capitulation.html


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