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Re: The trial of Derek Chauvin

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Joe & most democrats are trying to right the ship, by passing the relief bill (without ONE republican), and also trying to pass gun safety regulations, which is a brick wall they hit with republicans.

90% of Americans want gun safety, background checks, closing loopholes.
75% of Americans support the relief bill.

Yet republicans ignore their constituents, and refuse to pass these bills.
Many are still wanting to take away Obamacare...

The third witness is a mixed martial arts man. He described the technique Chauvin was using on George's neck to the jury. He said it looked like Chauvin was going for the kill shot, which the judge asked the jury to disregard, but they heard it.

For the record, the real time was 9 minutes & 29 seconds, before he got off his neck. One officer told Chauvin at 6 minutes he couldn't find a pulse, yet he stayed on his neck for more then 3 minutes.
Depraved.

Misconduct complaints
Chauvin had 18 complaints on his official record, two of which ended in discipline, including official letters of reprimand.[19] He had been involved in three police shootings, one of which was fatal.[16][20][21][22] According to the former owner of El Nuevo Rodeo, a Latin nightclub, Chauvin had worked there off duty as security while George Floyd was also working as security, but was not certain whether they knew each other.[23][24] The owner has been critical of Chauvin since his arrest, describing Chauvin's tactics as "overkill" and saying "Chauvin was unnecessarily aggressive on nights when the club had a black clientele, quelling fights by dousing the crowd with pepper spray and calling in several police squad cars as backup".[15] The owner also said Chauvin responded to fights by spraying the crowd with mace instead of dealing with those who were fighting.[discuss][25]


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Re: The trial of Derek Chauvin
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 30 Mar 21 8:52 AM
Msg. 41507 of 54959

One general point.

The US often seems to focus on individual cases and simplifies motives. White officer, black victim, must be a racist cop.

For me, while this may be true in some individual cases, the problem of violent cops mostly derives from a society that is dangerous. Because of this, police rules of engagement are harsh.

So why is America dangerous?

For me, it's because the way the US has decided to be is brutal. Gross inequality is fine for the extremely rich and miserable for the extremely poor. A lot of people are desperate. Gun rights mean that many people are armed. Because many people are armed and desperate, policing is risky. Harsh police methods make things more tense. Mistakes get made. On the margin, people die.

Chauvin is many cops on that margin. Some cross it. Some find themselves defending the Capitol.

Violent incidents involving the police are going to continue unless American politicians redefine the way US society operates. The underlying problem isn't Chauvin or the poor fellow he killed. Their story is a symptom of the disease. It's the way people live in the US which results in the ridiculous murder rate, dirt poverty and terrible ethnic tensions.

You don't fix the issue by hating Chauvin or putting him in jail, even if that is the just outcome in this case. You fix it by reducing gross inequality and by limiting access to lethal weapons so that harsh police operating procedures are no longer needed and the underlying tensions evaporate.

Even after that, there will still be bad policemen and also dangerous people. But with fewer of them, and the margin in a different place, their motives will be plain to see.


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