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I agree that the parts of the case I've seen that the House Managers are putting is persuasive and sometimes moving.

But the part of the purpose which is to find Trump guilty requires a jury with an open mind. We don't have that here. The GOP is filled with idiots who have no interest in facts and the truth. So the impeachment process is a sad sight. It's a broken method of holding Trump to account.

The part of the purpose which is to show what Trump did to incite the riot was already obvious. But it can be useful to show the facts and to demonstrate the GOP's disinterest in them. But that's the entire prize. There's nothing more to get because the GOP is the party of Trump and his corrupt enablers.

I am looking for a new party to emerge. I think that's the only cure. You can't cure corrupt enablers of their nature. You have to start again with new people and fresh ideas. Dubya conservatism isn't a worthwhile fix.




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Re: Impeachment trial is so sad
By: clo
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Thu, 11 Feb 21 12:56 PM
Msg. 40990 of 54959

It's riveting.

This is the third impeachment trail in my life, I've watched all.
In a way I'd add the Watergate hearings, watched them too.

The Democrat managers are laying out the timelines & links Trump inciting them long before 1/6.
Jamie Raskin the leader is a hero in my eyes. this team is better than the last & the mix works well.

I don't expect enough republicans to convict, but I do expect more than Mitt.
I'm hopeful Americans will understand more after this trial, about Trump & the republicans in power.

Many are leaving the party since 1/6.

‘There’s Nothing Left’: Why Thousands of Republicans Are Leaving the Party
Voting registration data indicates a stronger-than-usual flight from the G.O.P. since the Capitol riot, with an intensely fluid period in American politics now underway.

By Nick Corasaniti, Annie Karni and Isabella Grullón Paz
Feb. 10, 2021
In the days after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, the phone lines and websites of local election officials across the country were jumping: Tens of thousands of Republicans were calling or logging on to switch their party affiliations.

In California, more than 33,000 registered Republicans left the party during the three weeks after the Washington riot. In Pennsylvania, more than 12,000 voters left the G.O.P. in the past month, and more than 10,000 Republicans changed their registration in Arizona.

An analysis of January voting records by The New York Times found that nearly 140,000 Republicans had quit the party in 25 states that had readily available data (19 states do not have registration by party). Voting experts said the data indicated a stronger-than-usual flight from a political party after a presidential election, as well as the potential start of a damaging period for G.O.P. registrations as voters recoil from the Capitol violence and its fallout.

Among those who recently left the party are Juan Nunez, 56, an Army veteran in Mechanicsburg, Pa. He said he had long felt that the difference between the United States and many other countries was that campaign-season fighting ended on Election Day, when all sides would peacefully accept the result. The Jan. 6 riot changed that, he said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/10/us/politics/republicans-leaving-party.html


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