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Re: DOJ vs Prince Andrew

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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Interesting.

Andrew's team is talking along the same lines.

The DOJ needs to be trustworthy for him to cooperate. He is implying it isn't, and so he won't play ball. Or at least, he will only do so in ways not intended quite obviously to harm him. The DOJ is clearly searching for a high profile perp, having let the prime baddie commit suicide. The DOJ itself looks incompetent.

For this reason, which is a US domestic political one, I think Andrew is right to be sceptical. His reputation is damaged, but so is theirs. It's not his job to fix the DOJ's problem by sacrificing himself. They would both benefit from playing it in a more constructive way. The days of US bullying of its allies should never have been permitted to occur. It is time for it to stop.

I am quite sure he will be honest with the DOJ if the DOJ quits with its attempts to entrap him, in order to save its own face.




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Re: DOJ vs Prince Andrew
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 09 Jun 20 2:49 PM
Msg. 36807 of 54959

I thought about it, but it would be damned foolish to do so.

It only serves to point out the inequality that irritates people over here. Somehow the US keeps demanding the incarceration of British people under American law but never gives an inch when the roles are reversed.

All the same, there's a perfectly legitimate interest of the US authorities in learning what Andrew knows. But they are doing it all wrong. They have to decide if he is a witness or a target. They seem to want it both ways.

The plan appears to be to get him to incriminate himself under oath. And then to use his self-incrimination to demand he submit to US justice. Which tells you they don't have a case against him yet. So they are trying to embarrass him into submission using the press.

Naturally he won't do so on those terms. He will paint them as bullying thugs. War via media.

That's where we are. I don't think it ends well. It's clumsy behaviour by the prosecutor. They have a shot at employing him as a discrete and cooperative witness, with immunity from prosecution. But they are not going to get anything by bullying or playing it both ways. We don't like that sort of thing.

This would be a good place for the DOJ to start learning a new way to behave. Not just re the UK but generally. The reputation of the DOJ is horribly damaged. Who trusts them nowadays?


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