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Re: NJ Judge Who Asked Rape Victim if She Tried to Close Her Legs Is Removed From Bench

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As ever, everyone wants bad actors to be punished. But where facts are disputed and there's no evidence and two witnesses with opposing testimony, everyone is stuck with asking awkward questions and making hard decisions.

Trying to figure from the article if the judge was clumsy or cynical. It sounds like he had the impression the alleged victim was a liar to me.

Was he trying to find a way to ask if she had indicated anything to the alleged perpetrator - in words or behaviour - so that he understood she was not a consenting participant?

People don't write legal contracts in the bedroom. They don't necessarily strike a verbal agreement. So you may want to examine behaviour. Women do lie as do men, and you can only get to the truth by asking questions.

It's quite a demand to disqualify a judge from asking impolite-sounding questions ("insensitive, threatening, and discourteous") where a long jail sentence is involved for the alleged perpetrator. Especially if you think she is not entirely honest.

I hope the review panel was filled with thoughtful people who understand the difficulties in such situations. MeToo has revealed the monster. Tara Reade is a wonderful example of what happens when you adopt the principle that one should always assume honesty in women. Awkward questions can reveal the answers you need. Depends on the situation and whether everything else hangs together.

Without doing research I am not going to do, I am not sure this article impresses me with an opinion. Many cases aren't about someone jumping out of the bushes. They are about possible misunderstandings between adults in a bedroom.

Lest we forget, newspapers evoke outrage to sell their product.


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NJ Judge Who Asked Rape Victim if She Tried to Close Her Legs Is Removed From Bench
By: clo
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Wed, 27 May 20 2:59 PM
Msg. 36465 of 54959

NJ Judge Who Asked Rape Victim if She Tried to Close Her Legs Is Removed From Bench

The New Jersey Supreme Court has permanently barred a judge from serving in the state due to “repeated and serious acts of misconduct” after he was previously suspended for asking a rape victim if she could have stopped her attacker by closing her legs.

John Russo Jr., a former Ocean County Superior Court judge, was dismissed from the bench after he was recommended for removal by a three-judge panel earlier this year. Russo was presiding over a 2016 case when he asked a sexual assault victim, who was seeking a restraining order against her alleged assailant, if she knew “how to stop somebody from having intercourse” with her. When she responded, “to run away or try to get away,” Russo added, “Close your legs? Call the police? Did you do any of those things?”

Chief Justice Stuart J. Rabner, who wrote the high court’s opinion, asserted that “no reasonable victim could have confidence in a court system were he to preside over those kinds of cases again.” Russo claimed that his goal was to “get her re-engaged in the hearing” with cross-examination, which was rejected by the high court. “No witness, alleged victim, or litigant should be treated that way in a court of law,” Rabner said, adding that his “disturbing comments and questions were insensitive, threatening, and discourteous, and they reflected poorly on his temperament.”

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