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Ruth Marcus in the WaPo has an opinion today, in part she wrote;
To put a finer point on it: If you thought that the evidence against Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh was sufficient to deny him confirmation to a seat on the Supreme Court, are you a hypocrite if you don’t think the Reade allegations are enough to mean that Biden should not be president?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/01/two-questions-about-biden-reade-that-we-should-grapple-with-now/

I disagree.
Christine Blasey Ford testified under oath, in front of the world.

She shouldn't compare the two.

Joe has a public history over decades. I believe Joe.

as far as Kavanaugh is concerned, his behavior when being questioned, was disqualifying, even if you weren't sure of his earlier behavior.




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MeToo says believe all women
By: Cactus Flower
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Sat, 02 May 20 1:58 PM
Msg. 35980 of 54959

Said from the beginning that's a simplistic position. More than one principle is in play.

No one wants to see virtuous women harmed.

But some women have ulterior motives, just like some men do. All women are not angels. Some lie. We've seen many examples on this board: Jim Carrey, Neymar etc. Some women seem supersensitive - the Garrison Keillor example.

I prefer the approach taken in criminal law: the basic proposition is to assume innocence. The mere fact of an isolated allegation is not the place to start thinking a person may be guilty. You're mixing the bad men and the lying women in that first step.

If there's robust evidence, then it is worth looking at that. And if that stands up, okay, different circumstances. The needle moves some.

If there's an alleged pattern of bad behaviour, and it is persuasive, then my assumptions are also different.

But if the evidence is weak or inconsistent, or if a malicious motive is obvious, then you are looking at a spectrum ranging from uncertainty to defamation.

The mere fact of an isolated, nearly unsupported allegation is something hardly worth considering.


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