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Re: Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

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If only it was JUST sowing discord.

Through the presidency, Russia's taken control of US foreign policy. The US is no longer "leader of the free world". It seeks friendships with and supports dictatorships. It is in the process of undermining NATO. It has abandoned its allies in the Middle East and given its Syrian bases to Russia. It has damaged its trade relationships with everyone except Russia.

Russia has also taken control of one of the US' two parties and is undermining the country's basic tenets such as the rule of law. It clearly also has the ability to disrupt and influence US elections.

Russia has influence over a considerable chunk of US media. And it has figured out how to appeal to a large chunk of the electorate.

Basically, the US is becoming the American Hungary, a country that looks like an independent nation but is to a great extent a Russian colony. The process isn't complete. But it's quite far advanced.

This isn't meddling. It's a takeover.


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Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says
By: clo
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Sat, 23 Nov 19 2:59 AM
Msg. 32949 of 54959

Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

Moscow has run a yearslong operation to blame Ukraine for its own 2016 election interference. Republicans have used similar talking points to defend President Trump in impeachment proceedings.

By Julian E. Barnes and Matthew Rosenberg
Nov. 22, 2019, 1:34 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — Republicans have sought for weeks amid the impeachment inquiry to shift attention to President Trump’s demands that Ukraine investigate any 2016 election meddling, defending it as a legitimate concern while Democrats accuse Mr. Trump of pursuing fringe theories for his benefit.

The Republican defense of Mr. Trump became central to the impeachment proceedings when Fiona Hill, a respected Russia scholar and former senior White House official, added a harsh critique during testimony on Thursday. She told some of Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders in Congress that they were repeating “a fictional narrative.” She said that it likely came from a disinformation campaign by Russian security services, which also propagated it.

In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/us/politics/ukraine-russia-interference.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


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