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Woody, IMO, breached a 'parental role'.
So we will agree to disagree ;)

I never followed or heard much about Jim Carrey.

Like you, I found the accusations about Al Franken ridiculous.
My reason for turning against Gillibrand. IMO, she used him & the Clintons' in hopes of gaining in her career.

And Garrison's thing seemed weak too.

Part of the problem, for many years, many many real victims of sexual assault stayed silent, for many reasons.
Look at the church as a prime example, the molesters used their power & standing in the community to hold their victims emotionally hostage, too.

Most of the time, phonies are found out. That's not to say the falsely accused don't suffer for a crime they did not commit.
I believe these are far fewer than the real victims that stay silent.




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Re: MeToo and Michael Jackson
By: Cactus Flower
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Sun, 24 Mar 19 2:51 PM
Msg. 29256 of 54959

I know.

We disagree on Woody Allen as I see no pattern and so I presume his innocence.

He did do a weird thing with Soon-Yi but they have lasted. I guess weird worked for both of them.

The list of famous folks with allegedly abusive patterns of behaviour includes Michael Jackson, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Cosby, Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer and Harvey Weinstein.

I am happy they are in trouble. They seem to have earned it.

But there have also been many cases in which the abusee was chasing money or fame. Jim Carrey's case is the obvious example, in which the accuser faked his abuse to extort a payoff. If folks want to sort things out, they need to call out the fakers, too.

There are also the ridiculous accusations for nothing like the ones against Garrison Keiler and Al Franken.


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