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I dunno.

There is a collective benefit in having children vaccinated, or appears to be. Generally, epidemics can be prevented in this way.

I can also see why parents wouldn't want the state intruding in decisions about their children.

So this is a case of overlapping rights and freedoms, of the sort we discover everywhere. So it isn't unreasonable for folks to stake out different positions, in my opinion.

A few other considerations.

As soon as you have a mandate of this sort, businesses will use it forcefully to deploy their own vaccines. Sometimes this will mean children are used as guinea pigs in a population-wide programme. And many parents don't wish their children to be part of such a programme. Lest we forget, there was a medically-approved drug called thalidomide which damaged many people five or six decades ago. So caution isn't simply ignorance on the part of non-medical people.

I believe the medical need for popular vaccination is largely satisfied when about 95% of everyone is vaccinated. At least usually. Not being a doctor, I could be wrong. But if so, this would allow some room for exemptions/ freedoms. If so, conforming to a 95% threshold would gentle any mandate.

At any rate, I see large-scale vaccination as likely to be generally beneficial, so long as the path to general vaccination has been properly tested on smaller groups of increasing size, but I am not outraged when some parents see things differently.


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Italian Senate Ends Mandatory Child Vaccination Law
By: clo
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Tue, 07 Aug 18 2:11 AM
Msg. 26307 of 54959

This is crazy!

‘WILD WEST’
Italian Senate Ends Mandatory Child Vaccination Law

The Italian senate overturned the country’s mandatory vaccination law Monday, effectively ending required vaccinations for children, according to the Financial Times. The law, which requires children to have 10 vaccinations before attending school, was originally implemented this March after measles cases spiked in the country. But the Five Star Movement and the League, two anti-establishment groups that formed a ruling coalition two months ago, campaigned on ending it—and with Monday’s 148-110 vote in the upper house of parliament, they are close to success. The overturning amendment must now be passed by the lower house; in the meantime, parents will not have to provide proof of vaccination before their children attend school. The amendment has drawn harsh criticism from other parties, who warn that Italy had over 4,000 more measles cases in 2017 than it did the year prior. A member of the nation’s Democratic party noted that this move puts Italy behind nations like France and Germany, which are increasing their vaccination programs, arguing that it has made the nation “a kind of Wild West in which the health of children will be left completely to the family.”

Read it at Financial Times


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