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Re: Who is right, Wall Street or uncle Wally? 

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As best I can tell, the United States imported some 27 million metric tons of steel (in 2017) and used about 97 million tons (in 2012). So, barring only errors due to the differing years of my data, something in the ballpark of 28% of our steel usage is imported - mostly from China.

The imported steel quantity seems quite significant to me.

Sources for those numbers:

"The United States consumed almost 97 million tonnes."

http://education.seattlepi.com/much-steel-use-per-year-4717.html

"The United States is the world’s largest steel importer. In year to date 2017 (through September), further referred to at YTD 2017, the U.S. imported 26.9 million metric tons of steel, an increase from 22.5 million metric tons in YTD 2016."

http://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf





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Re: Who is right, Wall Street or uncle Wally?
By: Beldin
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Sat, 03 Mar 18 10:35 PM
Msg. 01207 of 06530

You are correct, micro.

Here's the thing ... the average car has about a ton of steel in it. The price of steel, right now, is about $700 per ton. IF imported steel prices were to go up by 25% due to increased tariffs, that means an increase in cost of $175 per car. The average price for a new car, these days, is $36,270. The estimated cost increase is .004825 of the average price. PUHLEEEEEEEEASE! Snoooooooooooooooore!

Next, a lot of imported steel is inferior crap that foreigners are dumping in the U.S. at cheap prices aimed at hurting U.S. steel companies and their American workers. Tariffs would simply even the playing field that has been stacked against U.S. competitors for decades, now. This is a much needed shot across the bow of completely unfair competition. The foreign countries who are doing the most bitching about this are the very same ones who tax the crap out of American goods coming into their countries. They are pathetic hypocrites. 


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