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Victimhood is definitely one of my themes. Everyone has discovered that if you play victim, you are untouchable.

OMG, I am offended!

Folks can find something to be offended about in a cup of tea or a clutch of penguins.

Laws that start out as sensible protections for the rare case of injuries to victimised people end up being used for marginal issues by attorneys. Hey, there's big money in a large class of victims, even if justice is the casualty.

To me, this is a problem with everything from sexual harassment to claims of racism to employee discrimination, and so on. Say the wrong word in a single sentence in a year, and you are damned by all and sundry. For nothing. Or if it's something, it ought to be a trivial fine. But the courts (or the cost of the courts) means that the damages are massive and absurd.

Meanwhile, the internet is the perfect medium of magnification. It heaps opprobrium on all transgressors.

Oy vey!

Trump's people have adopted the same model. Someone called the last election the first white minority election. Now everyone is a victim.

This is where all that stuff about white privilege and male chauvinism ends. Political castration and the shrieks of folks who feel like eunuchs. They want sympathy too. A new class of victims.

I get it. Everyone is a single issue fanatic these days. I blame liberallism for this, just like I blame US conservatism for lack of compassion.

Maybe we have reached the end of the current road when it comes to the assertion of rights if even a cake brings its maker to the attention of the supreme court.


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Re: Bannon
By: clo
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Tue, 12 Sep 17 4:18 AM
Msg. 22931 of 54959

Well, I was opposed to NAFTA.
My sons are in unions.

They both think Mexicans are taking jobs that Americans deserve.
I think many Trump voters do too.

I've discussed with them the 'right to work states' & how when enacted drags their salaries & benefits down.
The title sounds fair, but they get to hire whomever will work for the lowest wages.
I think Trump voters think this is 'fair'. Its sounds that way, its not.

'Liberal' lets say 'government' instead.
They want government out of their lives, meanwhile they are happy with Medicaid & grateful Social Security is a program they have.

I see many of Trump voters playing the victim.
Since most are white, and get the benefit of the doubt on most issues in their lives. How do they think people of color deal with the short end of the stick for many of their issues?

Many of his voters want to do away with 'protections' for the environment, workers safety, etc. They think they will benefit, they won't. Businesses will exploit workers & the environment, they get nothing in return, illness & no more money in their pockets.

My friend Cindy, a Conservative, lives in Arizona, voted for Trump. She called today and was bitching at how much Obama was getting paid for writing a book.
I said that's the American way, he isn't taking money from anyone. Unlike CEO's that take HUGE packages & employees get the short end of the stick.

She's still pleased with him. I said he learned in order to get something done he needed Chuck & Nancy. She agrees & we laughed.
We are different on so many issues, yet we really enjoy conversations. We learn from each other, even though we aren't usually swayed.
Its nice to know what the 'enemy' is thinking ;))


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