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Well, I was opposed to NAFTA.
My sons are in unions.

They both think Mexicans are taking jobs that Americans deserve.
I think many Trump voters do too.

I've discussed with them the 'right to work states' & how when enacted drags their salaries & benefits down.
The title sounds fair, but they get to hire whomever will work for the lowest wages.
I think Trump voters think this is 'fair'. Its sounds that way, its not.

'Liberal' lets say 'government' instead.
They want government out of their lives, meanwhile they are happy with Medicaid & grateful Social Security is a program they have.

I see many of Trump voters playing the victim.
Since most are white, and get the benefit of the doubt on most issues in their lives. How do they think people of color deal with the short end of the stick for many of their issues?

Many of his voters want to do away with 'protections' for the environment, workers safety, etc. They think they will benefit, they won't. Businesses will exploit workers & the environment, they get nothing in return, illness & no more money in their pockets.

My friend Cindy, a Conservative, lives in Arizona, voted for Trump. She called today and was bitching at how much Obama was getting paid for writing a book.
I said that's the American way, he isn't taking money from anyone. Unlike CEO's that take HUGE packages & employees get the short end of the stick.

She's still pleased with him. I said he learned in order to get something done he needed Chuck & Nancy. She agrees & we laughed.
We are different on so many issues, yet we really enjoy conversations. We learn from each other, even though we aren't usually swayed.
Its nice to know what the 'enemy' is thinking ;))




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Re: Bannon
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 12 Sep 17 1:42 AM
Msg. 22930 of 54959

I don't think that's enough, clo. There's more depth to it.

It's not about Trump. I'm sorta moving along from him.

It's about the people who voted for him. Why did they do so?

Taken as a whole, people express themselves seriously even when they don't know quite how to articulate their message.

I think there's meaning in the immigration and trade issues. I think there's meaning in the contempt for Liberal victimhood.

Trump picked up on it, but Bannon articulates it better.

It's the same stuff we have talked about. Inequality. Lack of income growth in the lower quintiles. People in news papers reporting on issues of rights that contradict traditional morality.

Cities want different things from rural areas. The speed of change is different.

Trump isn't the people. But he's channelling their scream. Trouble is, he has no idea what policies they want from him. Other than get rid of annoying stuff.


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