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I was in nam starting in 1965. I didn't like the war either. We had two thugs fighting over a dotted line on a map. On the other hand, killing communists is always in the best interest of humanity.




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Re: the dark side of ukraine
By: Fiz
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Fri, 07 Oct 22 2:18 AM
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Hi Rbit. I'm trying to read between the lines – which is hard because you joke so much.

Are you referring to Vietnam or something else?

I had to register for the draft, but the Vietnam War was winding down by then. I remember being opposed to that war; I couldn't understand why it was in the average American's best interest to be there. I have been opposed to nearly every war since – because of lack of direct interest. I made an exception for the Taliban – until the reality of the situation, and the lies, became too evident, as the US *criminally*, and quite transparently, used Afghanistan as a pretence to go after Iraq (which had the oil the Afghans lacked).

I'm not blanket opposed to war, however. I believe I would have supported WW2 (can't know, as I wasn't born). I also think locals have a right to fight if they aren't getting redress any other way. And, perhaps controversially, I actually believe that if any group of people want to “break away” from a larger state or country, they certainly should have the right to do that. If government is a “social contract” (a bogus argument, IMO, but cited ad museum) then n there should be a signature for every person who goes along with it. And those who don't go along with it should, at a minimum, be allowed to “opt out” (easier said than done, but I think the Amish and indians are examples in this country...)

Anyway, I am interested in your context. If you fought in Vietnam, my respects...and commiseration.

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P.S. When I look at modern wars, I have a hard time explaining them except: too much government with too many corrupt insiders incited by too much fiat money to do too much plundering. Very few actually appear to be groundswell driven by the people who actually live - and die - in the conflicts.


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