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Re: Beto ORourke has stunningly suggested that the United States should ditch its own Constitution. 

By: Zimbler0 in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (1)
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Msg. 21926 of 21975
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Kathy > I WILL NEVER GET OVER JOHN ROBERTS MAKING OBAMACARE A TAX SO THE LAW COULD BE PASSED.

As I recall, 'they' declared it was a 'fee' so that it would pass muster.
(Something about where tax laws must be begat meant it was Un-Constitutional
if it was a tax . . . then the Supreme Court crammed a camel through
a needle to find it 'Constitutional'.) (But, the responsibilities and
powers of the federal government are supposed to be limited to what
the Constitution says they can do - and health care is most assuredly
NOT among the power or responsibilities of the federal government.)

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Zim > C.) Congress - by an 80% majority (in both houses) should be able to remove a justice.

Kathy > OK, I AGREE WITH THIS. 80%? HMMMM, WE CAN'T GET EVEN ONE PERSON (ONE PERSON!!) TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL RE: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHILE I ADMIRE YOUR SUGGESTION, THIS WOULD BE DIFFICULT, TOO.


Babe,
It SHOULD be very difficult to remove a Supreme Court
Justice. Just like amendments to the Constitution
should be very difficult to enact. But the primary
job for the Supreme Court should be to strike down
any and all Laws or Un-Constitutional actions taken by anyone.

The way obozo-care was passed . . . the fact that congress NEVER
debated or even studied it . . . the fact that it had thousands of
little parts never even discussed . . . AND the fact that 'health care'
is NOT listed as a power or responsibility of the federal
government in the Constitution . . . SHOULD have had the Supremes tossing it out on its azz.

Zim.




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Re: Beto ORourke has stunningly suggested that the United States should ditch its own Constitution.
By: kathy_s16
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Sun, 20 Jan 19 1:25 AM
Msg. 21922 of 21975

My opinions?

1.) The Supreme Court should not be involved in the political fray.

BUT THEY ARE. I WAS JUST READING SOMETHING THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW THE SUPREMES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR ARGUMENTS FOR ___________ UNTIL NEXT OCTOBER. I'M SORRY I CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON IT, BUT EVEN THOUGH WE BOTH AGREE THAT THE SUPREMES SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN ANYTHING POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, DAMMIT, THEY ARE!
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2.) Other than death or retirement, I'd like to see
four ways by which a Supreme Court Justice can be
removed. OK, I SEE THEM BELOW:

A.) Senility. If a medical check up determines the Justice is
senile or suffering from dementia or is otherwise incapable
of doing the job, forced retirement.

I LIKE THAT YOU ARE SO CERTAIN OF THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE GLASS HALF FULL AND I ADMIRE THAT. THESE JUSTICES ARE ATTORNEYS, AND THEIR FRIENDS ARE ATTORNEYS. THE LAWSUITS THAT WILL OCCUR IF YOU TRY TO PROVE SENILITY WILL BLOW YOUR MIND. YOU HAVE TO PROVE EVERYTHING, WHICH IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT SOUNDS.
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B.) Criminal misconduct.

IF YOU HAVE THE "GOODS" ON HIM/HER, IT WILL BE EASIER TO PROVE. USUALLY, HOWEVER, IF ANY ATTORNEY GETS WIND OF THEIR CRIMINAL MISCONDUCT, THEY WILL RESIGN FIRST. (ROBERT MENENDEZ FOUGHT IT AND WON - BUT HE IS A "D" WORD FROM A BLUE STATE - NJ)
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C.) Congress - by an 80% majority (in both houses) should be able to remove a justice.

OK, I AGREE WITH THIS. 80%? HMMMM, WE CAN'T GET EVEN ONE PERSON (ONE PERSON!!) TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL RE: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHILE I ADMIRE YOUR SUGGESTION, THIS WOULD BE DIFFICULT, TOO.
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D.) Clearly Un-Constitutional rulings.

'D' would be incredibly difficult to prove . . . and I have no idea
what sort of mechanism might be constructed to 'Try'
such a thing. But it is my opinion that every Justice
who voted to find obamacare Constitutional needs to
be removed from the bench.

I WILL NEVER GET OVER JOHN ROBERTS MAKING OBAMACARE A TAX SO THE LAW COULD BE PASSED. I CAN'T FORGIVE HIM. MOST BANKRUPTCIES IN THE US ARE CAUSED BY MEDICAL EXPENSES. I REALIZE THAT HEALTH CARE IS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT ISSUE, BUT THERE HAS GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY. OBAMACARE IS NOT IT.


Zim.'K


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