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Re: Beto O;Rourke has stunningly suggested that the United States should ditch its own Constitution.

By: kathy_s16 in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (0)
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(1) that the framers’ constitution represented values that Americans should abhor or at least reject today;
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Further down they point out slavery and lack of womens suffrage . . .
The Constitution is obviously relevant because of the mechanism for Amending
the Constitution. Abolishing slavery and granting the right for everyone
to vote.
Zim.
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NEITHER EXISTS ANYMORE - SLAVERY/WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE. I CAN ALSO SEE HOW THE RELEVANCY OF AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION WILL BE REQUIRED IN THE FUTURE, BETO.
YA KNOW, I CAN'T IMAGINE NOT VOTING. THE FACT THAT SUFFRAGE EXISTED AT ALL KIND OF STYMIES ME. YOU KNOW I AM NOT A FEMINIST. HOWEVER, I RECENTLY READ ABOUT RUTH BADER GINSBERG AND HER EARLY YEARS AS A FEMALE ATTORNEY. IT WAS EYE-OPENING - A MADE-FOR-TV MOVIE IS COMING OUT ABOUT HER LIFE STORY. FYI
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Amendments are not
easy to pass because 'flavor of the day' is not how the country
should be ran.
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FLAVOR OF THE DAY REMINDS ME OF THE BABES, BUT I AGREE THAT AMENDMENTS SHOULD REMAIN AND HOW THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE RUN, BETO.
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Or is the author trying to abolish
the Electoral College - a mechanism I believe was put in specifically
to keep the rights of the smaller States from being stomped upon by
the larger more populous States
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YES, MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT THE AUTHOR WAS TRYING TO RID OURSELVES OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. THEN WE COULD HAVE (( JUST )) CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK AND ILLINOIS CHOOSE OUR REPRESENTATIVES. SINCE BUSH JR VS. AL GORE IN 2000, THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
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Thomas Jefferson - ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
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AS I recall, one of the Founding Fathers once wrote that "All Men Are Created Equal" . . .
And it looks to me like this is the direction the
country has been
heading in. Unless one is trying to 'create' a right for black guys to
beat up white people or LBGT 'right' for a dude to pretend he's a girl
so's he/she/it can invade the ladies room.

Look. NOBODY should be getting beat up (or killed) because of the
color of their skin. And every little girl in America should
have the right not to have a pervert in the bathroom with them.
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THERE MIGHT BE ONE PRESENT-DAY SITUATION THAT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. THE PREJUDICE AGAINST THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

I AM ONE OF THEM.

THE UNITED STATES WAS FORMED BY PEOPLE WHO EDUCATED THEMSELVES, WORKED THEIR FARMS (AND YES, OWNED SLAVES), BUT THEY (( CREATED )) A COUNTRY, ONE OF WHICH I AM PROUD TO BE A PART OF.

WE CANNOT HAVE ILLEGALS ENTERING OUR NATION. PERIOD.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO ASSIMILATE. I AM SICK OF PEOPLE NOT SPEAKING ENGLISH HERE. MULTI-LINQUISTS?
YES, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THERE USED TO BE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU NEEDED TO SPEAK AND WRITE ENGLISH BEFORE YOU WERE ACCEPTED HERE.

I HAVE HUNDREDS OF SHEETS OF MEDICAL PAPERS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN 20 LANGUAGES. JUST ONE SMALL PART OF THE EXPENSE OF ILLEGALS.
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ON A LIGHTER NOTE:

little girl in America should
have the right not to have a pervert in the bathroom with them.

REALLY? YOU'RE GOING TO RUIN SOME OLD LADY'S FUN!

J/K, OF COURSE.

ALL OF THE ABOVE IS MY OPINION AND TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, WHICH IS USUALLY NOTHING ANYWAY.

GOOD DISCUSSION, HOWEVER.


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Re: Beto O�Rourke has stunningly suggested that the United States should ditch its own Constitution.
By: Zimbler0
in CONSTITUTION
Sat, 19 Jan 19 4:41 PM
Msg. 21916 of 21975

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(1) that the framers’ constitution represented values that Americans should abhor or at least reject today;
>>>

Further down they point out slavery and lack of womens suffrage . . .
The Constitution is obviously relevant because of the mechanism for Amending
the Constitution. Abolishing slavery and granting the right for everyone
to vote.
Zim.

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(2) that there are parts of the constitution America is stuck with but that are impossible to defend based on contemporary values;
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Again. That is why we have Amendments. And Amendments are not
easy to pass because 'flavor of the day' is not how the country
should be ran.
Zim.

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(3) that for the most part the Constitution is irrelevant to the current political design of the nation;
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Now that is just plain Stupid. We still have the President, Congress,
and Supreme Court, do we not? Or is the author trying to abolish
the Electoral College - a mechanism I believe was put in specifically
to keep the rights of the smaller States from being stomped upon by
the larger more populous States.
Zim.

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and (4) that the rights that are protected today are mostly a result of the evolution of political attitudes, not of courts using the Constitution to uphold them.
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AS I recall, one of the Founding Fathers once wrote that "All Men Are Created Equal" . . .
And it looks to me like this is the direction the
country has been
heading in. Unless one is trying to 'create' a right for black guys to
beat up white people or LBGT 'right' for a dude to pretend he's a girl
so's he/she/it can invade the ladies room.

Look. NOBODY should be getting beat up (or killed) because of the
color of their skin. And every little girl in America should
have the right not to have a pervert in the bathroom with them.

Zim.


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