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...my reason for supporting the stupid wars is that I enjoy watching towel heads get blown to smithereens on the evening news. That money is far better spent than the money used to give free cellphones to Obama buddies or giving grants to haavaad to find out why monkeys fornicate.

...winnable wars are quaint historical notion. We have tried fighing last centuries wars for awhile and now we are trying to bring about last centuries solutions for peace. Neither will work anymore.


Liberals are like a "Slinky". Totally useless, but somehow ya can't help but smile when you see one tumble down a flight of stairs!

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Question for you single folks....
By: Decomposed
Thu, 09 Nov 17 1:17 PM
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If you'd had $23,000 just burning a hole in your pocket back in 2001, is security what you'd have spent it on? Do you think you've gotten your money's worth?

For those who are married, the same question - except it would be $46,000.

If your answer is no, then why are you supporting these stupid wars? Not only are they harming a lot of people overseas, many of whom are civilians, they're making the U.S. much less popular abroad, increasing our foreign policy costs and costing every one of you a pile of bucks.

You Vietnam vets ought to have fun with this one: Is the War on Terror even winnable? How?

August 9, 2017

Study: War on Terror Has Cost $5.6 Trillion, $23k per Taxpayer — More than 3x What Pentagon Claims

Cost of U.S. War on Jihadists: $5.6 Trillion, 7,000 Deaths, 52,500 Injuries

by Edwin Mora

The United States is expected to spend nearly $6 trillion through 2018 on government-wide costs related to the wars waged in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria since 2001, reveals a study by Brown University’s Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs.

According to Brown University’s Cost of War project analysis, authored by Neta Crawford, the total estimated cost of U.S. wars between 2001 and 2018 amounts to about $23,386 per individual American taxpayer, which is more than three times the amount ($7,740) calculated by the Pentagon.

The Pentagon’s study, dubbed the “Estimated Cost to Each Taxpayer for the Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria,” places the total authorized war spending on those conflicts between 2001 and 2018 at $1.5 trillion.

Unlike assessments conducted by the Pentagon and other analysts, Crawford’s estimate takes into account trillions in conflict-linked spending appropriated mainly through the U.S. Departments of Homeland Security, State, Defense, and Veteran Affairs.

On top of direct war spending through the Pentagon, the Brown University study includes $880 billion in new base defense costs linked to combat operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria, in addition to nearly $780 billion in Department of Homeland Security costs.

Moreover, the study notes that spending on veterans benefits has increased by nearly $300 billion since 2001 due to those wars.

Nevertheless, the Brown study notes that its “estimate is also conservative,” adding:

Uploaded ImageThis report has not included here state and local government expenses related to medical care of veterans and homeland security. Nor does this report calculate the macro economic costs of war for the US economy. And while this report discusses some of the ways that families bear the burden of caring for seriously veterans [sic], I have not added a value for the costs of their uncompensated care.  [img]http://www.wallstreetbear.com/image/1816_1504366540.jpg" />

The Cost of War project acknowledges that, since the U.S. Congress has yet to pass a budget for 2018, the figures for that period are estimates based on the previous year’s appropriations or the amount that the relevant department has requested.

Overall, Brown University found:

Uploaded ImageAs of late September 2017, the United States wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria and the additional spending on Homeland Security, and the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs since the 9/11 attacks totaled more than $4.3 trillion in current dollars through FY2017. Adding likely costs for FY2018 and estimated future spending on veterans, the costs of war total more than $5.6 trillion.  [img]http://www.wallstreetbear.com/image/1816_1504366540.jpg" />

Besides the trillions of dollars spent on the post-9/11 conflicts, the wars have imposed a profound human cost on Americans: nearly 7,000 U.S. military fatalities and more than 52,500 injuries, according to Breitbart News’s analysis of casualties in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria since 2001.

“Each one of the nearly 7,000 US soldiers killed by wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could be assigned a statistical value of human life — a dollar value to their deaths,” points out Crawford. “The Costs of War Project has not estimated the economic impact on the United States economy — the loss of economic productivity — of the deaths and injuries of US service members due to the wars.”

Crawford reports that the reason she does not break down the cost by individual war zone is that many of the expenditures overlap.

“The long duration of these wars, the fact that they occur simultaneously, involving many of the same personnel and equipment, has meant that their expenses and future costs related to personnel are increasingly difficult to disaggregate,” she notes

In response to the September 11 attacks, the United States launched its “Global War on Terror,” which covered the conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Syria.

It began with the war in Afghanistan in October 2001, then Iraq in 2003, and it ultimately expanded into Syria in 2014.


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